File of printed papers marked 'Egyptian negotiation' between Curzon and Adly Pasha and the Egyptian delegation [18r] (35/178)
The record is made up of 1 file (87 folios). It was created in 13 Jul 1921-4 Jan 1923. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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interest in Egypt is not limited to securing a free passage through the Suez Canal.
“The defence of her Imperial communications" involves much more than that.
For Egypt is becoming more and more a “nodal point" in the complex oi those
communications by land and air as well as by sea. In face of these considerations,
the idea of fixing Kantara, or some other spot in the canal zone, as the site ot a
cantonment had to be abandoned and, the principle of the maintenance ot a British
military force in Egypt having been admitted, the question where that iorce should
be stationed was left open—to be settled, with other details, in the official negotia
tions for the conclusion of the contemplated Treaty.
3. The British Officials in the Egyptian Service.
The seventh clause of Article IV of the memorandum deal with the position
of British officials in the Egyptian service. This is a matter of supreme importance
to the good government of Egypt. The whole system oi internal administration as
it exists to-day, has been mainly built up by the work and example oi British officials,
many of whom have spent the best part of their lives in the country. I he immeoia e
elimination of the British element would bring the whole fabric down in ruins. Even
an over-hasty reduction of that element would threaten its stability, and gieatly
impair the efficient conduct of public business. ^ ,
It is not indeed to be feared that, with the retirement of the British officials,
the country would relapse into the state of maladministration, from which we ha\e
delivered it, and that all the old evils would return. The number oi Egyptians
qualified by education and character to take part in the work of government on
civilised principles has greatly increased since the occupation. All the Egyptians,
even the humblest, have become so habituated to the new standard oi orderly, equit
able and honest administration, that a complete return to the abuses oi the past would
not be tolerated. Nevertheless, the “new model" would certainly be exposed to
danger of serious deterioration, if the men who have built it up and are still its main
stay were to be suddenly withdrawn. „
1 Thus it is only natural that the proposal to leave a purely Egyptian Government
entirely free to retain or not to retain British or other foreign officials in the Civil
Service should be at first sight regarded with considerable uneasiness But a
calm consideration of the practical aspects of the case is calculated greatly
to allay these misgivings. The idea of any Egyptian Government, however
free to do so, attempting to make a clean sweep of its foreign officials is a
chimera. One has only to picture the plight of such a Government, suddenly
deprived of its most experienced and responsible advisers and confronted with tne
general unpopularity which the consequent administrative breakdown would entail,
to realise that no sane men would deliberately plunge into such a sea of trouble.
And it is not only Egyptian disapproval which would have to be reckoned with, but
the anger and alarm' of the foreign residents. The large and wealthy foreign
Colonies, on which the economic welfare of Egypt so greatly depends, would at once
be up in arms. For these have all come to regard the presence of a British nucleus
in the administration as the sheet-anchor of their own safety and prosperity. Nor
is it to be anticipated that the High Commissioner—or whatever the British repre
sentative may in future be called—would not have a word to say m the matter, true,
he will, ^ hy pot he si, have no right to dictate to the Egyptian Government. But as
the representative of Egypt’s ally, as the foremost foreigner in Egypt, and the
guardian of foreign interests, he will still carry great weight, and it will always be
a matter of interest to Egyptian Ministers to be on good terms with him The
influences which would militate against the abuse by these Ministers of the right to
dispense with the services of British officials are thus immensely strong. And at the
same time the great satisfaction which they would feel at knowing that they had that
right and thal the British officials were really there to assist and not to dictate,
would make them more and and not less ready to rely on British help. .
For no sensible Egyptian seriously wishes to dispense with foreign aid in the
government of his country, or believes that Egypt could, for a long time to come at
any rate, afford to do without it. Egyptians generally no doubt think, and they are
right in thinking that the importation of British officials has sometimes, especially
of late years been overdone, they hold firmly to the principle that no Englishman
or other foreigner should be appointed to any post for which a reasonably competent
man of their own race can be found. They look forward to the time when the whole
or almost the whole of the public service will be staffed by their fellow-countrymen.
Thev feel that progress in that direction has been unduly slow and would like to see
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The file contains correspondence, minutes, and memoranda relating to negotiations between the British and Egyptian governments over Egyptian independence. Most of the file consists of minutes of conferences that took place at the Foreign Office during July and August 1921. These conferences involved an Egyptian delegation, led by Sir Adly Yeghen [Yakan] Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and the British, led by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Lord George Nathaniel Curzon. Matters covered in these meetings included: the termination of the British Protectorate, Britain's military presence, foreign relations, legislation, employment of foreign officials, financial and judicial control, Soudan [Sudan], the Suez Canal, communication rights, protection of minorities, retirement and compensation of British officials, and diplomatic relations between the two countries.
Also contained within the file are minutes by Ronald Charles Lindsay and John Murray, both Foreign Office officials, and correspondence between Curzon, Lindsay, Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and Field Marshal Edmund Henry Hynman Allenby, High Commissioner for Egypt and Sudan. These papers all concern matters covered by the negotiations.
Documents of note include a copy of the Report of the Special Mission to Egypt, dated 9 December 1920 (folios 4-23), and a memorandum on the political situation in Egypt by John Murray, dated 4 January 1923 (folios 74-87).
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- 1 file (87 folios)
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The file is arranged in rough chronological order, from the front to the rear. On the inside front cover is a manuscript index with a numbered list of the file's contents.
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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 89; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 2-87; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled.
Pagination: the file also contains an original printed pagination sequence.
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