File of printed papers marked 'Egyptian negotiation' between Curzon and Adly Pasha and the Egyptian delegation [56r] (111/178)
The record is made up of 1 file (87 folios). It was created in 13 Jul 1921-4 Jan 1923. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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[This Docmnent is the Property of His Britannic Majesty^ Government.]
CONFIDENTIAL.
EGYPTIAN NEGOTIATION'S.
Minutes of Sixth Conference with the Egyptian Official Delegation, held at the
Foreign Office, August 17, 1021, at 10*15 a.m.
Present:
Foreign Office.
The Hon. R. C. Lindsay.
Mr. J. Murray.
Mr. E. M. B. Ingram.
Egyptian Official Delegation.
His Excellency Sir Adly Yeghen
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
(President).
Members :
His Excellency Sir Hussein Rushdi
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
.
His Excellency Ismail Sidky
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
.
His Excellency Mohammed Shafik
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
.
His Excellency Ahmed Talaat
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
.
His Excellency Youssef Soliman
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
.
Abdel Hamid Bey Bedawi (Secretary).
Mr. Lindsay thought it would be advantageous to begin by a survey of the
reservations formulated by the delegation as discussed at the tirst Conference.
As regards the first reservation—the formal abolition of the protectorate there
was nothing more to be said, since it might be taken as conceded if a general
settlement were reached. As regards the second: “Suppression de la seconde
disposition de Palinea (a) de Particle 3 portant dune maniere generate que ‘ PEgypte
confere a la Grande-Bretagne les droits necessaires pour la sauvegarde de ses interets
ainsi que pour la rendre a meme d’avancer aux Puissances etrangeres les garanties
necessaires pour 1’obtention de Pabandon de leurs droits capitulaires,’ et cela pour ne
pas laisser entendre que PEgypte confererait d’autres droits que ceux limitativement
enumeres dans le projet,” Mr. Lindsay explained that this brought up the whole
question of how the Capitulations were to be dealt with in future. He thought that
the delegation were already aware of the British views on this subject, but lie would
attempt to formulate them. He took it that Egypt was anxious to abolish the
Capitulations, whilst His Majesty’s Government were no less anxious to bring about
the same result. It was agreed that there could be no progress in Egypt so long as
these shackles remained, but the question was how to proceed, the Milner Report
had indicated a certain procedure, but on consideration it would be found very ditlicult
to carry out. The treaties with the various Powers had not all as yet been concluded,
and His Majesty’s Government did not want to hold up a political settlement in Egypt
until the remaining treaties were concluded. Incidentally, this statement answered a
further reservation which the delegation had made (No. 3). W hat he had to propose
was this : that, while His Majesty’s Government continued to press the Powers to agree
to the abolition of the Capitulations, the Egyptians should on their side study in detail
the regime to be put into force in their place. It was on the cards that both parties
might be ready about the same time.
421-6 [6817j
B
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The file contains correspondence, minutes, and memoranda relating to negotiations between the British and Egyptian governments over Egyptian independence. Most of the file consists of minutes of conferences that took place at the Foreign Office during July and August 1921. These conferences involved an Egyptian delegation, led by Sir Adly Yeghen [Yakan] Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and the British, led by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Lord George Nathaniel Curzon. Matters covered in these meetings included: the termination of the British Protectorate, Britain's military presence, foreign relations, legislation, employment of foreign officials, financial and judicial control, Soudan [Sudan], the Suez Canal, communication rights, protection of minorities, retirement and compensation of British officials, and diplomatic relations between the two countries.
Also contained within the file are minutes by Ronald Charles Lindsay and John Murray, both Foreign Office officials, and correspondence between Curzon, Lindsay, Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and Field Marshal Edmund Henry Hynman Allenby, High Commissioner for Egypt and Sudan. These papers all concern matters covered by the negotiations.
Documents of note include a copy of the Report of the Special Mission to Egypt, dated 9 December 1920 (folios 4-23), and a memorandum on the political situation in Egypt by John Murray, dated 4 January 1923 (folios 74-87).
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- 1 file (87 folios)
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The file is arranged in rough chronological order, from the front to the rear. On the inside front cover is a manuscript index with a numbered list of the file's contents.
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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 89; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 2-87; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled.
Pagination: the file also contains an original printed pagination sequence.
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