File of printed papers marked 'Egyptian negotiation' between Curzon and Adly Pasha and the Egyptian delegation [46v] (92/178)
The record is made up of 1 file (87 folios). It was created in 13 Jul 1921-4 Jan 1923. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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The fears of the foreign colonies are chiefly due to anxiety lest they should come
under a regime of English law. The British colony is aware that complete anglicisation
of the criminal law and procedure is impossible, and greatly dislikes losing the benefit
of such institutions as the jury, habeas corpus, and the law of evidence. Foreign and
British alike dislike losing the protection of their consuls, and the subjection to an
international court of the jurisdiction in family matters.
The proposal not only to require the acceptance and the promulgation of the
judicature laws, but to make the coming into effect ol the political treaty dependent on
the completion of all our plans with regard to the Capitulations and the Mixed Courts, is
open to the political objection that, once the treaty is concluded, it will acquire a
considerable degree of spontaneous momentum, and it will probably be impossible to
postpone its coming into operation pending the consent of one or more foreign Powers
to the introduction of judicial reforms which, as already remarked, have received no
strong measure of support in any quarter.
It is suggested that in the negotiation of the proposed treaty no attempt should be
made to provide for the immediate modification of the regime of the Capitulations, but
that we should confine ourselves to securing that, when the Egyptians have had
opportunity to realise to the full the inconvenience of the present situation, they will
be obliged to come to His Majesty’s Government to assist in securing the mitigation of
this regime and to proceed in accordance with our plan. lo meet this requirement
they should be asked to agree not to negotiate independently with regard to the
Capitulations; they should also be invited to agree to certain stipulations of immediate
application :—
(a ) To leave the selection of foreign judges and of the Procurator-General in
our hands;
(b.) To agree that His Majesty’s Government shall exercise a quasi-protectorate over
the nationals of all European non-capitulary States; and
(c.) To enact any legislation required to carry into effect the provisions of the
Treaties of Peace as to Germans, &c., and not to enact such legislation
without the concurrence of His Majesty’s Government.
It does not appear to be necessary to stipulate in the treaty that Egypt accepts
our conventions, already made or to be made, with regard to the cession to His
Majesty’s Government of capitulary rights. When Egypt wants capitulary reform she
will find us in control of the international forces.
If these suggestions are approved, I submit that we shall be in a position to meet
the three points made by the Egyptian delegation at the last meeting, viz.:—
1. That the coming into force of the political treaty shall not be contingent on the
conclusion of the conventions with the capitulary Powers for the abolition of
the latter’s exterritorial privileges.
2. That Egypt should be a party to the negotiation of any such convention.
3. That the draft judicature laws should be discussed clause by clause with the
delegation, and their approval obtained.
If we are prepared to change our attitude as suggested we should strengthen our
bargaining position, and before I approach the legal sub-committee of the delegation it
occurs to me that you might prefer to utilise this apparently large concession on our
part to obtain Egyptian acceptance of our essential military requirements.
The negotiation of the conventions by His Majesty’s Government would of course
be continued.
I should add that I have prepared this memorandum in consultation with our legal
advisers, Mr. Amos, and the Department, all of whom concur in the views which I have
attempted to express.
R. C. L.
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The file contains correspondence, minutes, and memoranda relating to negotiations between the British and Egyptian governments over Egyptian independence. Most of the file consists of minutes of conferences that took place at the Foreign Office during July and August 1921. These conferences involved an Egyptian delegation, led by Sir Adly Yeghen [Yakan] Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and the British, led by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Lord George Nathaniel Curzon. Matters covered in these meetings included: the termination of the British Protectorate, Britain's military presence, foreign relations, legislation, employment of foreign officials, financial and judicial control, Soudan [Sudan], the Suez Canal, communication rights, protection of minorities, retirement and compensation of British officials, and diplomatic relations between the two countries.
Also contained within the file are minutes by Ronald Charles Lindsay and John Murray, both Foreign Office officials, and correspondence between Curzon, Lindsay, Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and Field Marshal Edmund Henry Hynman Allenby, High Commissioner for Egypt and Sudan. These papers all concern matters covered by the negotiations.
Documents of note include a copy of the Report of the Special Mission to Egypt, dated 9 December 1920 (folios 4-23), and a memorandum on the political situation in Egypt by John Murray, dated 4 January 1923 (folios 74-87).
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- 1 file (87 folios)
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The file is arranged in rough chronological order, from the front to the rear. On the inside front cover is a manuscript index with a numbered list of the file's contents.
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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 89; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 2-87; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled.
Pagination: the file also contains an original printed pagination sequence.
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