Coll 6/21(1) 'Hejaz-Nejd: Relations with H.M.G.: Hejaz Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah.' [148v] (307/914)
The record is made up of 1 volume (453 folios). It was created in 7 Sep 1927-10 Jan 1935. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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16. Towards the end the King expressed his surprise on learning that the
Turks had agreed to alienate rights, which were not in their lawful disposal. He
denied all knowledge until recently of the Anglo-Turkish conventions. I said
that surely the Saudi Government had been aware of the Anglo-Turkish Con
vention of 1913, which, if I remembered rightly, was referred to specifically in
the Koweit-Nejd Boundary Convention of 1922. Both the King andj^
Sheikh Yussuf were positive that they had no previous knowledge of the con-~
ventions of 1913-14, and made the point that they were not among the treaties
communicated to Ibn Saud after the conclusion of the Treaty of Jedda.
Sheikh Yussuf recalled a reference to the old Koweit boundary in the Koweit-
Nejd Boundary Agreement of 1922, but did not think that the Anglo-Turkish
Convention as such was referred to (I subsequently verified my own recollection,
which was correct).
17. I did not feel that I could invite the King to make a further com
munication to His Majesty’s Government during my absence on leave, as
suggested in my instructions, having regard to the fact that the last official note
of the Saudi Government remains unanswered, and to the extreme vigour of the
King’s personal reaction. I promised to report all that he had said. The
audience ended at 5-30 p.m.
18. Shortly after 6 Sheikh Yussuf called on me to break the news that the
King wished to give us presents. I am dealing separately with this.
19. We dined with the King at 6 • 30. He was in the best of form before and
during dinner; chaffed Mr. Philby over his unwillingness to adopt the Royal
suggestion that he should take a wife; expounded his own views as to the
excellence of matrimony up to the extreme limits allowed by the holy law; and
spoke freely of the way in which he was served by the sons of his former enemies.
He laughed at reports in the press that one of the Beni Rashid was raising the
Shammer against him, when the person named and others of that family were
with his sons at the front. All the sons of Dawish, he said, were also at the front.
20. TLe started on business again about 7-30. I broached the question of
the King’s relations with Koweit, the adjustment of which was strongly desired
by His Majesty’s Government with special reference to the desirability of ending
the present restriction on trade between Koweit and Nejd. A proposal, I
observed, had been made quite a long time ago to seek a basis of settlement, but
it had been held up by the question of the claims of the Sheikh of Koweit, a
matter which also required settlement. The King expressed eagerness for a
settlement of the blockade question on a basis of reciprocity. I asked what he
meant; whereupon he developed, not very clearly, various views as to the effect of
different prices for commodities in Nejd and Koweit and of smuggling. He said
that he could not agree to customs posts on the frontier, as they would cost more
than they would produce in the way of revenue, and smuggling would still go on.
I suggested that the conti ol exercised by his blockade officer, AI Bagawi, seemed
to be pretty effective, and that Al Bagawi might be better employed in collectino-
revenue than m stopping trade. The King was not impressed by this, but finally
said that he would welcome a meeting of representatives of himself and the
sheikh to devise a settlement. He did not revert to the question of the sheikh’s
claims. I preferred not to carry the discussion further in view of the sheikh’s
attitude since the meeting of commissioners was first proposed.
21. I asked the King generally how he wished our discussion to be followed
up. 1 was not very clear, I said, as to the plans of Fuad Bey Hamza If Fuad
Bey was coming to London and was authorised to express His Majesty’s views
he would have an opportunity of doing so, while I was at home. Alternatively’
the ground might be prepared during my absence for the final handling of the
questions on my return from leave. The King said that Fuad Bey was to spend a
month in Paris and would be able to speak for him in London. He suggested that
should leport our discussions at Taif and that any expression of His Maiesty’s
Government s views should be conveyed to his Government, whereupon Fuad Bey
would be instructed. I pointed out that this would take time and the King
presently agreed to my counter-suggestion that Fuad Bey should be acouainted
W v h n W p at n ia 1i )aSSed at 1 Ta \ f ’ and silould be instructed at once as to the line on
which he should pursue the discussion in London.
this point I said that, although there were other rmt«fsir»rP"nn*
questions, I did not wish to trouble His Majesty personally with them and f
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This volume concerns relations between the British Government and the Government of the Hejaz and Nejd (later Saudi Arabia).
The volume largely consists of copies of Foreign Office and Colonial Office correspondence. The correspondence near the beginning of the volume discusses Ibn Saud's [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd's] wish to enter into full diplomatic relations with the British Government. The Hejazi Government's proposal in 1929 to establish a legation in London is accompanied by a request for the British Government to raise the status of its Agency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, headed by an agent. and Consulate in Jedda to the same status.
The subsequent correspondence in the volume discusses the following:
- The British Government's consideration (and acceptance) of Ibn Saud's proposal, and the appointment of Sir Andrew Ryan as His Majesty's Minister at the British Legation in Jedda in May 1930.
- Hafiz Wahba's appointment as Hejazi Minister in London in 1930.
- Complaints made by the Hejazi Ministry of Foreign Affairs, regarding Sir Andrew Ryan's attitude and conduct since his arrival in Jedda.
- Details of an Hejazi-Nejdi diplomatic mission to Europe (including visits to Italy, France, Britain, and the Netherlands), undertaken in May 1932 and headed by Amir Feisal [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd], Hejazi Minister for Foreign Affairs (this part of the volume includes detailed accounts of the mission's meetings with Foreign Office officials during its visit to London).
- Sir Andrew Ryan's account of his meeting with Ibn Saud at Taif in July 1934, and their discussion of the 'blue line' (the frontier which marked the Ottoman Government's renunciation of its claims to Bahrain and Qatar, in the Anglo-Ottoman convention of 1913) and the Kuwait blockade.
- Details of several meetings held at the Foreign Office between Fuad Bey Hamza (Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia), Sir Andrew Ryan and George William Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), during September 1934, regarding the 'blue line', the Kuwait blockade, and the future of the Treaty of Jedda (the treaty signed between Britain and Ibn Saud in 1927).
- Requests from the Italian Government for information regarding Fuad Bey Hamza's visit to London.
The volume features the following principal correspondents: His Majesty's Agent and Consul at Jedda, a position that was raised to His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires to Jedda in late 1929 (Hugh Stonehewer Bird, William Linskill Bond, Cecil Gervase Hope Gill, and Albert Spencer Calvert successively); His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan); His Majesty's Ambassador in Rome (Ronald William Graham); Ibn Saud; Amir Faisal; officials of the Hejazi/Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs; officials of the Foreign Office, the Colonial Office, and the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. .
In addition to correspondence, the volume contains a copy of the minutes of a meeting of the Committee of Imperial Defence's Standing Official Sub-Committee for Questions Concerning the Middle East. The meeting, which took place in London on 8 November 1934, was primarily concerned with the settlement of the 'blue line' issue, the Saudi- Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan frontier, and the Kuwait blockade.
The volume includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the volume by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.
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- 1 volume (453 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence for this description commences at the first folio with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 449; these numbers are written in pencil and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. The front and back covers, along with the two leading and two ending flyleaves, have not been foliated.
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