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Coll 6/21(1) 'Hejaz-Nejd: Relations with H.M.G.: Hejaz Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah.' [‎148r] (306/914)

The record is made up of 1 volume (453 folios). It was created in 7 Sep 1927-10 Jan 1935. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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by which they would stand together, and which would be supported by an under
taking, to be subscribed to by both the parties, that they would not stand against
Great Britain or support any Power who went against her. He considered that
such an arrangement would achieve his own object and would serve the interests
of His Majesty’s Government.
^ 11. At 3-30 I called on the Amir Khalid, as Acting President of the
^Council. This visit was purely formal. The Prince was shy but self-possessed,
and made mild efforts at conversation.
12. The King received me again at 4 p.m. After compliments, I said that
I hoped for a fuither expression of his views. He replied that he had nothing
more to say. In view of what Sheikh Yussuf had told me, this was obviously
merely a device for throwing on us the onus of initiating the discussion of the
frontier question. I therefore said that one of the outstanding questions which
His Majesty s Government desired to see settled was that of his eastern
boundaries. I explained how convinced His Majesty’s Government were that
the only legal basis was that resulting from the Anglo-Turkish Conventions of
1913-14. The King, I said, now ruled what had been a part of the Ottoman
Empire, and had succeeded to the position of the former Turkish Government.
If this thesis, to which His Majesty’s Government held strongly, was admitted,
they would be prepared to consider modifications of the legal frontier. I must,
however, make it clear that what they had in view was minor modifications, a
qualification rendered necessary by the comprehensiveness of the claims put
forward in the last Saudi note in regard to Qatar and the country towards Muscat
and Oman.
13. This started the King in a most vehement statement. Catching on to
the mention of Qatar, Muscat and Oman, he said that he might well claim all
these places as really his. He scouted the idea that the coastal principalities
represented true sovereignties. They owed their existence to people who came
from over the sea for trading purposes. He was not, however, he explained care
fully, claiming them now, as he had entered into an agreement with His Majesty’s
Government regarding them. He was not going back on that agreement, even
though his rule would be welcomed in the coastal areas themselves. He merely
cited the more extensive claims, which would be justified but for that agreement,
in support of what he did claim, viz., authority over tribes like the Murra, an
authority extending from Hhafra all the way, I gathered, to the hinterland of
Oman. He denied the justice of the attitude of His Majesty’s Government, even
though they should insist on it, and he should be compelled to yield.
14. I cannot reproduce in an exact form what the King said, but the
foregoing paragraph gives the main lines of his thesis, which, as regards his
ancestral claims, he supported by the following arguments, interspersed in his
discourse :—
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(a) His historical claim to Qatar, Muscat and Oman, which he had renounced,
was borne out by what had passed between one of his predecessors and
Colonel Felly. He spoke of a treaty or agreement as having been
reached at that time. He was obviously speaking from general
recollection, and was not even certain of Colonel Felly’s exact name,
but he was quite positive that Colonel Felly had recognised a very
extensive Saudi authority.
(b) When Jasim and Ahmed-bin-Thani of Qatar had quarrelled (perhaps
some forty years ago, but no exact date was mentioned), one of them
had appealed to the then Ibn Saud for assistance, and the then Ibn
Saud had composed the quarrel.
(c) He admitted that in his early days, Ibn Rashid had held Riadh and the
Turks, Hasa. Even then Turkish authority did not extend further.
They had never ruled the Murra, &c., and had at one moment requested
him to use his authority over the tribes, whereupon he had sent fUA^o
persons, whom he named, to control them. He denied absolutely the f^fb
right of the Turks to alienate his ancestral rights. /ro"
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15. I observed that the King had himself come to an agreement with the
Turks, by which he recognised their sovereignty. He did not deny this, but said
that what he had done had been done under Bi itish advice given b}
Captain Shakespear, presumably under instructions.
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This volume concerns relations between the British Government and the Government of the Hejaz and Nejd (later Saudi Arabia).

The volume largely consists of copies of Foreign Office and Colonial Office correspondence. The correspondence near the beginning of the volume discusses Ibn Saud's [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd's] wish to enter into full diplomatic relations with the British Government. The Hejazi Government's proposal in 1929 to establish a legation in London is accompanied by a request for the British Government to raise the status of its Agency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, headed by an agent. and Consulate in Jedda to the same status.

The subsequent correspondence in the volume discusses the following:

  • The British Government's consideration (and acceptance) of Ibn Saud's proposal, and the appointment of Sir Andrew Ryan as His Majesty's Minister at the British Legation in Jedda in May 1930.
  • Hafiz Wahba's appointment as Hejazi Minister in London in 1930.
  • Complaints made by the Hejazi Ministry of Foreign Affairs, regarding Sir Andrew Ryan's attitude and conduct since his arrival in Jedda.
  • Details of an Hejazi-Nejdi diplomatic mission to Europe (including visits to Italy, France, Britain, and the Netherlands), undertaken in May 1932 and headed by Amir Feisal [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd], Hejazi Minister for Foreign Affairs (this part of the volume includes detailed accounts of the mission's meetings with Foreign Office officials during its visit to London).
  • Sir Andrew Ryan's account of his meeting with Ibn Saud at Taif in July 1934, and their discussion of the 'blue line' (the frontier which marked the Ottoman Government's renunciation of its claims to Bahrain and Qatar, in the Anglo-Ottoman convention of 1913) and the Kuwait blockade.
  • Details of several meetings held at the Foreign Office between Fuad Bey Hamza (Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia), Sir Andrew Ryan and George William Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), during September 1934, regarding the 'blue line', the Kuwait blockade, and the future of the Treaty of Jedda (the treaty signed between Britain and Ibn Saud in 1927).
  • Requests from the Italian Government for information regarding Fuad Bey Hamza's visit to London.

The volume features the following principal correspondents: His Majesty's Agent and Consul at Jedda, a position that was raised to His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires to Jedda in late 1929 (Hugh Stonehewer Bird, William Linskill Bond, Cecil Gervase Hope Gill, and Albert Spencer Calvert successively); His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan); His Majesty's Ambassador in Rome (Ronald William Graham); Ibn Saud; Amir Faisal; officials of the Hejazi/Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs; officials of the Foreign Office, the Colonial Office, and the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. .

In addition to correspondence, the volume contains a copy of the minutes of a meeting of the Committee of Imperial Defence's Standing Official Sub-Committee for Questions Concerning the Middle East. The meeting, which took place in London on 8 November 1934, was primarily concerned with the settlement of the 'blue line' issue, the Saudi- Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan frontier, and the Kuwait blockade.

The volume includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the volume by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.

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1 volume (453 folios)
Arrangement

The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence for this description commences at the first folio with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 449; these numbers are written in pencil and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. The front and back covers, along with the two leading and two ending flyleaves, have not been foliated.

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Coll 6/21(1) 'Hejaz-Nejd: Relations with H.M.G.: Hejaz Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah.' [‎148r] (306/914), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/2087, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100066378256.0x00006b> [accessed 5 June 2026]

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