Coll 6/21(2) 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with H.M.G.: Saudi Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah. Prolongation of Treaty of Jedda.' [293r] (585/761)
The record is made up of 1 file (379 folios). It was created in 14 Jan 1935-12 Apr 1947. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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that His Majesty will oppose any such suggestions by pleading the force of
opinion in Saudi Arabia, and to this argument His Majesty’s Government can,
in the last resort, only reply by emphasising the force of public opinion in this
country. While therefore you will press very strongly for the omission or
modification of this passage, I see no alternative but to authorise you to accept
n it as it stands if, in your judgment, the success of an otherwise promising
negotiation would be jeopardised by further opposition on this point.
11. Sir John Simon, in paragraph 4 of his despatch No. 452 of the
13th December, 1934, referred to a suggestion by Sir George Maxwell that action
might be taken to bring Saudi Arabia into the orbit of the efforts being made by
the League of Nations to end slavery, at least to the extent of securing her
accession to article 2 (a) of the International Slavery Convention, 1926. After
taking into full consideration the general indifference of the Saudi Government,
as reported by you from time to time since the issue of Sir John Simon’s
instructions on this point, to the League of Nations and its activilies, I am of
opinion that it will be preferable, at any rate for the present, that His Majesty’s
Government, who at least have something with which to bargain in the proposed
abandonment of their right of manumission, shall continue to deal with the matter
as an Anglo-Saudi question, and that the idea of securing the accession of Saudi
Arabia to article 2 (a) of the International Slavery Convention of 1926 shall not
be pursued at the present time, though it may be possible to revert to it,
independently of the present negotiations, at some future date. In any case it
may be hoped that other influences, such as the force of public opinion in Europe
generally and among enlightened Moslems in other countries, may gradually
induce the Saudi Government to make effective any regulations which they adopt
on this subject.
12. The question whether, if you are able to reach an agreement with King
Abdul Aziz in regard to the draft Saudi regulation, the eventual abandonment
by His Majesty’s Government of their right of manumission shall be made
independently, or as part of an arrangement for the prolongation of the Treaty
of Jedda, is distinct from that of the main issue dealt with in this despatch.
Generally speaking, however, and subject to such views as you may derive from
your conversations with King Abdul Aziz, the best method will be to adopt the
suggestion originally made by you, that, when certain matters, of which this
question of slavery is the most important, have been satisfactorily settled, the
Treaty of Jedda shall be formally prolonged by an exchange of notes. Both
parties would undertake therein not to exercise for a period of, say, seven years,
their right under article 8 of the treaty to denounce it on six months’ notice,
while His Majesty’s Government would, in the same exchange of notes, record
their renunciation of the right of manumission which they have maintained under
the letters exchanged between the late Sir Gilbert Clayton and King Abdul Aziz
at the time of the original conclusion of the treaty.
13. On the other hand, should your negotiations with King Abdul Aziz on
such subjects as that of the south-eastern frontiers make sufficient progress to
justify you in recommending the conclusion of an entirely new treaty to replace
the Treaty of Jedda of 1927, it would still be possible to fall back on the first of
the two courses of action suggested in paragraph 12.
14. Alternatively, so little progress may be made with the settlement of the
other questions in dispute that it may be impossible or undesirable either to renew
the Treaty of Jedda in the manner ^proposed, or to conclude a fresh treaty. In
that event I shall be prepared, on your recommendation, to consider the conclusion
of the proposed arrangement for the abandonment by His Majesty’s Government
of their right of manumission in return for the promulgation of the proposed
legislation; and, in that case, the arrangement would have to be incorporated in
a separate exchange of notes dealing with that subject only.
15. It may be that during your visit to Riyadh no suitable opportunity will
present itself for you to discuss this question with the King in person. In that
case, the question will arise whether you will take any initiative in raising it on
your return to Jedda, if the Saudi Government do not themselves raise it. On
the whole, I incline to the view that the balance of argument is in favour of
proceeding with the matter, even if the Saudi Government do not themselves
revive the question. I am, however, prepared to leav^ it to your discretion, in
the light of the circumstances existing at the time, whether to take any such
initiative or not. If you are in any doubt on the point, you may seek my further
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This file, like the previous volume (IOR/L/PS/12/2087), concerns relations between the British Government and the Government of Saudi Arabia.
The file largely consists of copies of Foreign Office correspondence, mainly between His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan, Sir Reader William Bullard, Hugh Stonehewer Bird, and Stanley R Jordan successively) and officials of the Foreign Office. Other prominent correspondents include the following: the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs; His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires to Jedda (Albert Spencer Calvert, succeeded by Alan Charles Trott); His Majesty's Ambassador in Baghdad (Sir Kinahan Cornwallis); Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd]; Amir Faisal [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd], Minister of Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia; officials of the Colonial Office and the War Office.
The correspondence documents the progression of negotiations for a general settlement between the two governments, which would result in the initial prolongation of the validity of the Treaty of Jedda (the treaty signed between Britain and Ibn Saud in 1927, which initially expired in September 1934) for a period of seven years from 1936 (and for another seven years from 1943).
In addition to discussing matters relating to the proposed general settlement (e.g. the eastern and south-eastern boundaries of Saudi Arabia, slavery regulations, arms traffic, and Saudi debts), the correspondence also documents various visits and meetings, including the following:
- The visit of Amir Saud [Āl Sa‘ūd, Sa‘ūd bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz, heir apparent of Ibn Saud] to Britain (17 June-1 July 1935), accompanied by Fuad Bey Hamza, Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia.
- Further meetings at the Foreign Office between Fuad Bey Hamza, Hafiz Wahba (Saudi Minister in London), Sir Andrew Ryan, George William Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), and other Foreign Office officials, in July 1935, following on from meetings in September 1934.
- Sir Andrew Ryan's meetings with Ibn Saud in Riyadh in December 1935 and in Jedda in February 1936.
- Four interviews held between Ibn Saud, Sir Reader William Bullard and George William Rendel, in Jedda, during March 1937.
Also discussed are matters relating to the Second World War, including:
- An exchange of letters between Ibn Saud and the British Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, in early 1939, which principally relate to Ibn Saud's concerns regarding his country's security in the event of the beginning of general hostilities.
- German radio broadcasts in Jedda during the first few weeks of the Second World War and their possible effect on the Jedda population.
- The possibility of Iraq and Saudi Arabia formally joining the Allies in the Second World War.
In addition to correspondence the file includes the following: a copy of a programme for Amir Saud's visit to Britain (ff 339-348); exchanges of notes (in English and Arabic) between the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the British Legation at Jedda, confirming the prolongation of the Treaty of Jedda, dated 1936 and 1943 respectively (ff 189-192 and ff 4-5); a sketch map showing air routes over Saudi Arabia and Iraq (f 31v).
Although the material in this file falls inside the date range of 1935-1943, the final document in the file does include an additional date stamp which is marked '12 April 1947'.
The file includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.
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- 1 file (379 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
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- Coll 6/21(2) 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with H.M.G.: Saudi Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah. Prolongation of Treaty of Jedda.'
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- front, front-i, 2r:4r, 5r, 6r:31r, 32r:75v, 77r:77v, 79r:152v, 158r:173v, 175r:180v, 186r:187v, 188v:189r, 190v:191r, 192r:199v, 201r:204v, 206r:266v, 269r:275v, 276v:278v, 280r:286v, 288r:293r, 295r:314r, 316r:380v, back
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