Coll 6/21(2) 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with H.M.G.: Saudi Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah. Prolongation of Treaty of Jedda.' [292v] (584/761)
The record is made up of 1 file (379 folios). It was created in 14 Jan 1935-12 Apr 1947. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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at Riyadh, or to the Saudi Government after your return to Jedda, a formal and
confidential note in the above sense.
6. The draft regulation itself appears to me to be of a sufficiently
satisfactory character to justify the abandonment by His Majesty’s Government
of their right of manumission. It contains, however, certain points which could
be much improved; and I desire that you will discuss them with the proper
authorities before you formally agree to the present draft.
7. I understand that you are satisfied that the prohibition against the
import of slaves into Saudi Arabia by sea, contained in sub-head 1 of article 1,
is clearly intended to be of universal application, notwithstanding the reference
in the preamble of the article to so-called “ treaty States.” In this case, no
further amendment to this sub-head is essential; though this point would be
placed beyond any possible doubt if the words “ from any country ” were added
at the end of the sub-head.
8. A point of greater importance is in sub-head 2 of article 1, where I agree
with you that an amendment should be inserted to make it clear that the exception
would not cover persons recently enslaved in the Yemen, and that the “ document ”
provided for should mean an official document of such a nature as would establish
the fact that the person to whom it refers was already a slave before the
inauguration of the present regime in the Hejaz. Such an amendment would
not alter the purport of the sub-head, and should therefore not be difficult to
obtain. You will therefore make every effort to persuade the Saudi authorities
to introduce it.
9. Article 4 of the draft regulation has formed the subject of much
discussion between you and Fuad Bey, and I share your objection to agreeing to
the time limit established in it, which would deprive of any remedy persons
“ unlawfully ” enslaved before the inauguration of the Saudi regime in the Hejaz,
i.e., before 1925, whereas such persons have at present some chance of regaining
their liberty by taking refuge at His Majesty’s Legation at Jedda. You should
endeavour, therefore, to secure an amendment of it in a form which would extend
the period to an earlier date or, better still, impose no time limit at all. Failing
this, I should be satisfied with a formula which would provide for redress in
really hard cases dating from before the Saudi regime, e.g., cases in which the
applicant or his relatives could show a clear recollection of the circumstances
of the enslavement. On the other hand, ten years have now elapsed since the
institution of the Saudi regime in the Hejaz, and the number of persons enslaved
before that time who are still likely to seek manumission at His Majesty’s
Legation at Jedda is steadily decreasing. While therefore the proposed article
might involve hardship in a limited number of cases of persons enslaved before
the institution of the Saudi regime in the Hejaz who may still be hoping to regain
their liberty by seeking manumission from His Majesty’s Legation, the fact that
these persons have taken no such action for so long a period renders the matter
one rather of theoretical than of practical importance, and the objections to the
proposed article are in practice likely to become less and less cogent. It thus
seems questionable whether His Majesty’s Government would be justified in
risking on this point alone the loss of the other important advantages of potential
future value presented by the draft regulation. You may therefore in the last
resort, if unable to overcome the strong objections of the Saudi Government to
any amendment of this article, accept the article in its present form.
10. A further point on which I request that you will make every effort to
secure an amendment of the draft regulation is the final proviso of article 5,
which appears to give a slave-owner the power to reserve to himself at the time
of a marriage between his slaves the right eventually to separate the husbfind
and wife. I recognise that this proviso is based on ancient and still existing
practice in Arabia where, moreover, marriage relations are generally of a looser
character than in non-Moslem countries. None the less, it is particularly
repugnant to western ideas and may well cause considerable criticism when the
regulations become known in this country and have to be invoked publicly in
justification of the action of His Majesty’s Government in abandoning their right
of manumission. While, therefore, it is most desirable on the one hand that
article 5 of the draft regulation be amended in this respect, I am, on the other
hand, well aware that there are limits beyond which King Abdul Aziz cannot go
in opposing practices which have the approval of the overwhelming majoritv
of his subjects in general, and of the Ulema in particular. You may thus find
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This file, like the previous volume (IOR/L/PS/12/2087), concerns relations between the British Government and the Government of Saudi Arabia.
The file largely consists of copies of Foreign Office correspondence, mainly between His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan, Sir Reader William Bullard, Hugh Stonehewer Bird, and Stanley R Jordan successively) and officials of the Foreign Office. Other prominent correspondents include the following: the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs; His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires to Jedda (Albert Spencer Calvert, succeeded by Alan Charles Trott); His Majesty's Ambassador in Baghdad (Sir Kinahan Cornwallis); Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd]; Amir Faisal [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd], Minister of Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia; officials of the Colonial Office and the War Office.
The correspondence documents the progression of negotiations for a general settlement between the two governments, which would result in the initial prolongation of the validity of the Treaty of Jedda (the treaty signed between Britain and Ibn Saud in 1927, which initially expired in September 1934) for a period of seven years from 1936 (and for another seven years from 1943).
In addition to discussing matters relating to the proposed general settlement (e.g. the eastern and south-eastern boundaries of Saudi Arabia, slavery regulations, arms traffic, and Saudi debts), the correspondence also documents various visits and meetings, including the following:
- The visit of Amir Saud [Āl Sa‘ūd, Sa‘ūd bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz, heir apparent of Ibn Saud] to Britain (17 June-1 July 1935), accompanied by Fuad Bey Hamza, Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia.
- Further meetings at the Foreign Office between Fuad Bey Hamza, Hafiz Wahba (Saudi Minister in London), Sir Andrew Ryan, George William Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), and other Foreign Office officials, in July 1935, following on from meetings in September 1934.
- Sir Andrew Ryan's meetings with Ibn Saud in Riyadh in December 1935 and in Jedda in February 1936.
- Four interviews held between Ibn Saud, Sir Reader William Bullard and George William Rendel, in Jedda, during March 1937.
Also discussed are matters relating to the Second World War, including:
- An exchange of letters between Ibn Saud and the British Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, in early 1939, which principally relate to Ibn Saud's concerns regarding his country's security in the event of the beginning of general hostilities.
- German radio broadcasts in Jedda during the first few weeks of the Second World War and their possible effect on the Jedda population.
- The possibility of Iraq and Saudi Arabia formally joining the Allies in the Second World War.
In addition to correspondence the file includes the following: a copy of a programme for Amir Saud's visit to Britain (ff 339-348); exchanges of notes (in English and Arabic) between the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the British Legation at Jedda, confirming the prolongation of the Treaty of Jedda, dated 1936 and 1943 respectively (ff 189-192 and ff 4-5); a sketch map showing air routes over Saudi Arabia and Iraq (f 31v).
Although the material in this file falls inside the date range of 1935-1943, the final document in the file does include an additional date stamp which is marked '12 April 1947'.
The file includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.
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- 1 file (379 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
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- Coll 6/21(2) 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with H.M.G.: Saudi Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah. Prolongation of Treaty of Jedda.'
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- front, front-i, 2r:4r, 5r, 6r:31r, 32r:75v, 77r:77v, 79r:152v, 158r:173v, 175r:180v, 186r:187v, 188v:189r, 190v:191r, 192r:199v, 201r:204v, 206r:266v, 269r:275v, 276v:278v, 280r:286v, 288r:293r, 295r:314r, 316r:380v, back
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