Coll 6/21(2) 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with H.M.G.: Saudi Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah. Prolongation of Treaty of Jedda.' [176v] (352/761)
The record is made up of 1 file (379 folios). It was created in 14 Jan 1935-12 Apr 1947. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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in London, but there was the even more cogent reason that Ibn Sand would
certainly expect to hear the views of an official of the Foreign Office who, to his
knowledge, had dealt with Saudi affairs for many years. I venture to believe
that Mr. Rendel’s visit and the conversations to which it gave rise have been of
the greatest value, and will have helped to launch my personal relations with
His Majesty under the happiest auspices. Certainly nothing could have been ^
more cordial, friendly and familiar than the King’s words and manner, which
never changed, however delicate the point under discussion, and it was interesting
to learn from my new Italian colleague, with our interviews fresh in my mind,
that he had found the King extremely guarded, and concluded that he was an
extremely clever fellow, who would never commit himself.
6. I am fully conscious of the danger that excessive cordiality at the
beginning of an acquaintance may lead to disappointment later on. As I
informed the Foreign Office in personal letters soon after my arrival, I found
that the King regarded me, on the strength of quite normal official letters written
by me to King Hussein in 1923-25 and discovered in the Shereefian archives after
the fall of Jedda, as a partisan of Ibn Sand’s, and I regretted this assumption,
since the oriental builds far too much upon personalities and the King might
expect to gain impossible favours from His Majesty's Government through my
efforts and might afterwards be more dissatisfied at failure than if he had never
entertained any hope of success. Similarly there is the danger that he may build
too much upon Mr. Rendel’s visit, and may hope to influence His Majesty’s
Government in matters where it is not possible for them to make concessions or
grant favours. But it is sufficient to keep this danger in mind. On the whole
I am sure that the cordial conversations have been of very great value.
7. The subjects discussed during Mr. Rendel's visit were these :—
(1) With Sheikh Yusuf Yasin and Sheikh Hafiz Wahba :—
(a) Qatar frontier.
(b)
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
frontier.
(c) Koweit blockade.
(2) With the King, Sheikh Yusuf Yasin and Sheikh Hafiz Wahba being
present:—
(a)
W
W
(e)
(/)
The general relations of Saudi Arabia with His Majesty’s Govern
ment (this includes the Qatar frontier and relations with the
Persian Gulf
The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran.
rulers in general).
Relations of Saudi Arabia with Italy.
The Yemen (with the Italians in the background).
Iraq (with the Turks in the background).
An appeal for assistance from His Majesty’s Government (not
dealt with in detail except to some extent in regard to aviation).
Palestine^
These questions, which frequently overlapped each other in the course of the
conversations, will be dealt with in detail by telegram or despatch.
8. Copies of this despatch are being sent to Cairo, Jerusalem, Bagdad,
Bushire and Aden.
I have, &c.
R. W. BULLARD.
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This file, like the previous volume (IOR/L/PS/12/2087), concerns relations between the British Government and the Government of Saudi Arabia.
The file largely consists of copies of Foreign Office correspondence, mainly between His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan, Sir Reader William Bullard, Hugh Stonehewer Bird, and Stanley R Jordan successively) and officials of the Foreign Office. Other prominent correspondents include the following: the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs; His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires to Jedda (Albert Spencer Calvert, succeeded by Alan Charles Trott); His Majesty's Ambassador in Baghdad (Sir Kinahan Cornwallis); Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd]; Amir Faisal [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd], Minister of Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia; officials of the Colonial Office and the War Office.
The correspondence documents the progression of negotiations for a general settlement between the two governments, which would result in the initial prolongation of the validity of the Treaty of Jedda (the treaty signed between Britain and Ibn Saud in 1927, which initially expired in September 1934) for a period of seven years from 1936 (and for another seven years from 1943).
In addition to discussing matters relating to the proposed general settlement (e.g. the eastern and south-eastern boundaries of Saudi Arabia, slavery regulations, arms traffic, and Saudi debts), the correspondence also documents various visits and meetings, including the following:
- The visit of Amir Saud [Āl Sa‘ūd, Sa‘ūd bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz, heir apparent of Ibn Saud] to Britain (17 June-1 July 1935), accompanied by Fuad Bey Hamza, Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia.
- Further meetings at the Foreign Office between Fuad Bey Hamza, Hafiz Wahba (Saudi Minister in London), Sir Andrew Ryan, George William Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), and other Foreign Office officials, in July 1935, following on from meetings in September 1934.
- Sir Andrew Ryan's meetings with Ibn Saud in Riyadh in December 1935 and in Jedda in February 1936.
- Four interviews held between Ibn Saud, Sir Reader William Bullard and George William Rendel, in Jedda, during March 1937.
Also discussed are matters relating to the Second World War, including:
- An exchange of letters between Ibn Saud and the British Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, in early 1939, which principally relate to Ibn Saud's concerns regarding his country's security in the event of the beginning of general hostilities.
- German radio broadcasts in Jedda during the first few weeks of the Second World War and their possible effect on the Jedda population.
- The possibility of Iraq and Saudi Arabia formally joining the Allies in the Second World War.
In addition to correspondence the file includes the following: a copy of a programme for Amir Saud's visit to Britain (ff 339-348); exchanges of notes (in English and Arabic) between the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the British Legation at Jedda, confirming the prolongation of the Treaty of Jedda, dated 1936 and 1943 respectively (ff 189-192 and ff 4-5); a sketch map showing air routes over Saudi Arabia and Iraq (f 31v).
Although the material in this file falls inside the date range of 1935-1943, the final document in the file does include an additional date stamp which is marked '12 April 1947'.
The file includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.
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- 1 file (379 folios)
- Arrangement
The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
- Physical characteristics
Foliation: the foliation sequence commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
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- Title
- Coll 6/21(2) 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with H.M.G.: Saudi Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah. Prolongation of Treaty of Jedda.'
- Pages
- front, front-i, 2r:4r, 5r, 6r:31r, 32r:75v, 77r:77v, 79r:152v, 158r:173v, 175r:180v, 186r:187v, 188v:189r, 190v:191r, 192r:199v, 201r:204v, 206r:266v, 269r:275v, 276v:278v, 280r:286v, 288r:293r, 295r:314r, 316r:380v, back
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