Coll 6/21(2) 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with H.M.G.: Saudi Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah. Prolongation of Treaty of Jedda.' [170r] (339/761)
The record is made up of 1 file (379 folios). It was created in 14 Jan 1935-12 Apr 1947. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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the independence of the Yemen should be maintained. In conclusion, Ibn Saud
declared vehemently that there must be an outbreak in the Yemen—perhaps before
the death of the Imam. In that event, what would the Italians do and what would
be the attitude of His Majesty’s Government?
5. Mr. Rendel replied that His Majesty’s Government fully appreciated the
^ dangers of the situation in the Yemen. There was no doubt that the Italians
had been, and still are, intriguing actively in that country and would be very
ready to fish in the waters they had helped to trouble. But while the internal
situation was perhaps more dangerous than it had been, he was inclined, for the
following reasons and speaking purely personally, to doubt whether the Italian
danger was now quite as acute as it had been a year ago. In the Rome /
understanding of 1927 His Majesty’s Government had made it quite clear, and
the Italians had formally recognised, that His Majesty’s Government regarded
it as “a vital imperial interest that no European Power should establish itself
on the Arabian shore of the Red Sea.” (At this point Sir Reader Bullard gave
King Ibn Saud, for convenience of reference, a copy of an Arabic translation of
the relevant text, which had already been communicated to His Majesty by
Sir Andrew Ryan.) There was, of course, no reason to trust any Italian promises
as such, but it was obvious that, in view of the terms of the Rome understanding,
any attempt by Italy to establish herself in the Yemen would be a direct challenge
to His Majesty’s Government. No doubt Italian hotheads, possibly Italian local
officials, cherished designs on the Yemen. But Italian policy would be directed
from Rome, and present indications suggested that for European reasons, and
in view of British rearmament, Italy was not now anxious to embark on any
conflict with His Majesty’s Government, but was rather seeking to establish
better relations. Even if this view should prove mistaken, he did not think
King Ibn Saud need be seriously disturbed by Italian activities in the Yemen.
Saudi and British interests were closely parallel, and it was difficult to see how
any development which threatened Saudi independence could fail equally to
threaten British interests, so that the probability was that, in any such event.
Ibn Saud would, in any case, find Great Britain at his side. At a later interview
the opportunity was taken to mention that the Italians themselves seemed
anxious to keep the Rome understanding alive, and apparently feared a forward
policy on the part of His Majesty’s Government (see Foreign Office despatch to 1
Jedda, No. 182 of the 24th February).
6. Mr. Rendel added that he understood (from Sheikh Hafiz Wahba) that
His Majesty wished to know the attitude of His Majesty’s Government towards
his suggestion for an exchange of information about the Y r emen, &c. Mr. Rendel
saw no reason why this should not be possible. His Majesty’s Government would
be glad to pass on to Ibn Saud any information of interest which they could
properly communicate to him, though in doing this they would, of course, be
assuming that Ibn Saud was satisfied that there would be no risk of leakage at
the Saudi end.
7. Ibn Saud then turned to Iraq. He had good information, for people
wrote to him from all parts of the Arab world and he had seen many Iraqi
pilgrims, and the reports all tallied with each other. Everyone was suspicious
of the new Iraqi Government and regarded it as not Arab. There had been much
to be said against Yasin-al-Hashimi, who had even gone so far as to ask Sheikh
Yusuf Yasin to tell Ibn Saud to beware of the British Government, but at least
his policy was an Arab policy. To the policy of the present Iraqi Government
there were two objections : it was communistic, and it was under Turkish
influence. The Turks had begun by trying to get possession of the Sanjak of
Alexandretta, and their next aim would be to acquire Mosul.
8. Mr. Rendel said that the title of Communist was sometimes misapplied
to anyone who favoured economic social reform. He understood that such
reforms were long overdue in Iraq, where there was much extreme poverty, and
it was possible that Hikmet Suleiman’s legislation was necessary, and was not
imposed in any spirit of communism. It might be well, therefore, to reserve
judgment on this point until the Amir Saud and Sheikh Hafiz Wahba should
have seen the situation for themselves during their impending visit to Bagdad.
(Here Ibn Saud said that Hikmet Suleiman did not care a rap for the poor or
for anyone.) As to Turkish influence, Mr. Rendel believed that, while the maker
of the military couf d’Etat, Bakr Sidqi, and some of his military associates, might
be described as pro-Turkish, Hikmet Suleiman showed signs of wanting to shake
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This file, like the previous volume (IOR/L/PS/12/2087), concerns relations between the British Government and the Government of Saudi Arabia.
The file largely consists of copies of Foreign Office correspondence, mainly between His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan, Sir Reader William Bullard, Hugh Stonehewer Bird, and Stanley R Jordan successively) and officials of the Foreign Office. Other prominent correspondents include the following: the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs; His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires to Jedda (Albert Spencer Calvert, succeeded by Alan Charles Trott); His Majesty's Ambassador in Baghdad (Sir Kinahan Cornwallis); Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd]; Amir Faisal [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd], Minister of Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia; officials of the Colonial Office and the War Office.
The correspondence documents the progression of negotiations for a general settlement between the two governments, which would result in the initial prolongation of the validity of the Treaty of Jedda (the treaty signed between Britain and Ibn Saud in 1927, which initially expired in September 1934) for a period of seven years from 1936 (and for another seven years from 1943).
In addition to discussing matters relating to the proposed general settlement (e.g. the eastern and south-eastern boundaries of Saudi Arabia, slavery regulations, arms traffic, and Saudi debts), the correspondence also documents various visits and meetings, including the following:
- The visit of Amir Saud [Āl Sa‘ūd, Sa‘ūd bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz, heir apparent of Ibn Saud] to Britain (17 June-1 July 1935), accompanied by Fuad Bey Hamza, Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia.
- Further meetings at the Foreign Office between Fuad Bey Hamza, Hafiz Wahba (Saudi Minister in London), Sir Andrew Ryan, George William Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), and other Foreign Office officials, in July 1935, following on from meetings in September 1934.
- Sir Andrew Ryan's meetings with Ibn Saud in Riyadh in December 1935 and in Jedda in February 1936.
- Four interviews held between Ibn Saud, Sir Reader William Bullard and George William Rendel, in Jedda, during March 1937.
Also discussed are matters relating to the Second World War, including:
- An exchange of letters between Ibn Saud and the British Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, in early 1939, which principally relate to Ibn Saud's concerns regarding his country's security in the event of the beginning of general hostilities.
- German radio broadcasts in Jedda during the first few weeks of the Second World War and their possible effect on the Jedda population.
- The possibility of Iraq and Saudi Arabia formally joining the Allies in the Second World War.
In addition to correspondence the file includes the following: a copy of a programme for Amir Saud's visit to Britain (ff 339-348); exchanges of notes (in English and Arabic) between the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the British Legation at Jedda, confirming the prolongation of the Treaty of Jedda, dated 1936 and 1943 respectively (ff 189-192 and ff 4-5); a sketch map showing air routes over Saudi Arabia and Iraq (f 31v).
Although the material in this file falls inside the date range of 1935-1943, the final document in the file does include an additional date stamp which is marked '12 April 1947'.
The file includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.
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- 1 file (379 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
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- Coll 6/21(2) 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with H.M.G.: Saudi Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah. Prolongation of Treaty of Jedda.'
- Pages
- front, front-i, 2r:4r, 5r, 6r:31r, 32r:75v, 77r:77v, 79r:152v, 158r:173v, 175r:180v, 186r:187v, 188v:189r, 190v:191r, 192r:199v, 201r:204v, 206r:266v, 269r:275v, 276v:278v, 280r:286v, 288r:293r, 295r:314r, 316r:380v, back
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