Coll 6/91 'Saudi Arabia. Policy of H.M.G. Qn. of credits and guarantee of assistance to Ibn Saud.' [338v] (677/680)
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I am sure that he did not wish to give the German cause even the small hllip that
the confirmation of the order might have given it.
4. It might be expected that Ibn Saud, as a dictator himsell, would
sympathise with the totalitarian States, but that is not so. Ibn Saud does not
regard himself as a dictator of the Hitler order, but as a monarch limited by th e y*
precepts of the Quran. On one occasion he accepted as correct a suggestion
made that he ruled under a “religious constitution. To him there is » 1
fundamental difference between the theocracy of Saudi Arabia and the depotism,
tempered neither by the fear of God nor readiness to listen to human advice, or
a man like Hitler. But he frankly says that Hitler is mad, and quotes an Arabic
proverb which affords a close parallel to “ Quern deus vult perdere. ^ hrad
proof of Hitler’s madness Ibn Saud cites the pact with Soviet Russia, which he
believes will be one of the causes of Germany s downfall. His own hostility to
Soviet Russia is intense. Self-interest, injured by the cessation of the stream
of pilgrims from Moslem communities now under Soviet rule, may have something
to do with this, but Ibn Saud also dislikes a rule which can find no room for
i the religion and the social system of Islam. The prolonged negotiations between
Soviet Russia and Turkey gave him acute anxiety. His suspicions of Turkey,
as nursing an undying grudge against the Arabs, are well known to His Majesty s
Government, and it was not surprising that he should imagine Soviet Russia as
offering Turkey a free hand to the south in return for a free hand for Russia
in the Balkans. The news of the signature of the pact between Great Britain,
France and Turkey, which arrived just before I left Riyadh, did something to
reassure His Majestv.
5. Having taken up an attitude of neutrality so benevolent towards the
Allies it is natural that Ibn Saud should desire that Palestine should cease to
be a cause of irritation to the Arab world. Although he ridicules German
propaganda as overdone, he fears lest the Arabic broadcasts from Berlin,
conducted with vitriolic skill and force by such people as Yunus Bahri, may
have some effect on Arab minds, and he considers that the restoration of peace in
Palestine and some form of open support by the Palestinian Arabs for the Allied
cause would be the greatest blow to Germany. I found him still in the stage
of the armistice-amnesty idea. One can understand that, having no obligations
of alliance towards His Majesty’s Government such as those of Iraq and Egypt,
he should be unwilling to make yet another appeal to the Palestinian Arabs unless
he has something to offer. Nevertheless, he accepted the statement which I gave
him, based on Foreign Office telegram No. 133 of the 2nd October, explaining
the attitude of His Majesty’s Government towards the Mufti and towards a
possible appeal by the Arab States to the people of Palestine. He conveyed this
statement to Jamal-al-Husaini, who was then in Riyadh, and telegraphed it to
his representative in Bagdad, with the suggestion that Iraq should approach
Egypt and he himself the Imam of the Yemen, with a view to concerted action
to bring about peace in Palestine.
1 6. We need have no fear that Saudi Arabia may become a centre for anti-
British intrigue during the war. Anti-British broadcasts will be listened to.
but only in private houses; wireless broadcasts in coffee-shops are not permitted,
and a Royal decree forbids the populace to discuss the international situation,
with which, it says, they have no concern. The ground for the decree is stated
therein to be the inherent unsuitability of the Holy Land of Islam for
propaganda. This decree suits His Majesty’s Government very well, since we
cannot compete with our enemies in vituperation. Dr. Grobba, who, on having
to leave Iraq, wanted to make for Riyadh by land, was deflected from his purpose
by an ingenious excuse, and Ibn Saud told me with great vehemence that he knew
Dr. Grobba only wanted to engage in propaganda, and that he was resolved not
to have him in Riyadh at any cost. We know that Ibn Saud also refused to
allow Dr. Ruwaiha, the doctor to the German Legation in Bagdad, to come to
Saudi Arabia. He showed me a number of papers about Mizhir-al-Shawi,
whose journey from Iraq to Saudi Arabia had excited suspicion; they tended to
show that the main, if not the only, reason for the journey was to escape
vengeance or punishment for a tribal murder, and proved in any case that
Ibn Saud was keeping a close watch on the man. He declared with great
vehemence that he was entirely opposed to having to receive the Mufti in his
| territory a man whom he despises as a shifty self-seeker. Jamal-al-Husaini,
who had gone to Riyadh from Bagdad to see him, was received in audience only
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This file concerns British policy towards Saudi Arabia during the Second World War (the abbreviation 'Qn' in the title stands for 'Question'). The correspondence discusses the question of providing financial or material assistance to Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd], as well as the United States' growing economic and strategic interests in Saudi Arabia.
The file features the following principal correspondents: His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Reader Bullard, Hugh Stonehewer Bird, and Stanley R Jordan successively); the Secretary of State for India (Leo Amery); the Viceroy of India (Archibald Percival Wavell); the Chancellor of the Exchequer (John Anderson); officials of the Foreign Office, the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , the Treasury, the Government of India's Finance and External Affairs Departments, and the United States Embassy in London.
Related matters of discussion include the following:
- The idea (initially discussed in correspondence dating from 1939) of an alliance or a bloc of Arab states (chiefly comprised of Saudi Arabia and the Yemen), which would support the Allied cause.
- The Italo-German reaction to Ibn Saud's refusal to receive German diplomat Dr Fritz Konrad Ferdinand Grobba, a decision that was applauded by the British.
- Italian influence in the Middle East.
- Anglo-French co-operation in the Middle East.
- Details of the Saudi Government's finances (i.e. expenditure and revenue) during the early war years.
- Arrangements for loans and payments from the British to the Saudi Government, as well as details of royalties and loans paid to the Saudi Government by the California Arabian Standard Oil Company (Casoc).
- Proposals for an irrigation and agricultural mission to Saudi Arabia, headed by a United States agricultural expert.
- Conversations between Ibn Saud and United States General Patrick Hurley during the latter's visit to Riyadh in May 1943.
- The Government of India's decision in 1942 not to allow pilgrim ships to sail from India to Saudi Arabia, because of a risk of the ships being attacked.
- Ibn Saud's requests in 1944 for the British Government to send to Saudi Arabia financial and military advisers, preferably Sunni Moslems [Muslims].
- The proposed appointment of Ibn Saud's requested financial adviser, which is delayed and eventually abandoned, following the United States' suggestion that the position be given to a United States adviser, because of the United States' 'preponderant interest' in the Saudi economy.
The file includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence (folio 2).
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 339; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 262-286; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled. A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
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- front, front-i, 2r:36v, 39r:57v, 59r:110v, 113r:182v, 184r:189v, 191r:310r, 311v:339v, back
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