'Mosul Question, Lausanne 1922-1923 and after - Papers, despatches, speeches - Hotel de la Mer at Lausanne - Correspondence about oil' [67v] (136/501)
The record is made up of 251 folios (1 file). It was created in 15 Nov 1922-3 Nov 1923. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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Enclosure in No. 1.
Counter Reply to the Memorandum of the Turkish Delegation concerning the
Question of the Vilayet of Mosid.
THE memorandum of the Turkish delegation, far from being convincing, only
provides fresh support to the contention that the Mosul Vilayet is naturally and
must remain a part of the mandatory area of Irak. Many of the Turkish arguments
are disposed of by the previous British memorandum, dated the 14th December.
Nevertheless they have again been given full consideration.
1. Racial.
Although the Turkish Government ruled the Mosul Vilayet for many centuries,
no correct Turkish map of the vilayet exists, nor, so far as the British delegation is
aware, are there any pre-war statistics on a racial basis collected by the Turkish
Government. On the other hand, British officers during the last few years have made
accurate maps of the whole area and have visited every corner of it. The British
delegation has, therefore, good reason for thinking that its statistics are more
likely to be accurate than those of the Turkish delegation, which, it may be noted,
bear no date. The British figures for Kurds do not include those Persian Kurds
who simply pass part of their time in Irak. As to the nomad and semi-nomad Arab
tribes, the area to which they belong is perfectly well known. Only Arabs of the
Mosul Vilayet are included in the British statistics.
The nature of the Turkish statistics can be illustrated by reference to the figures
given by the Turkish delegation for the Sulaimaniyeh “ liwa.” The Turkish delega
tion states (1) that there are over 7,000 Arabs in this area, whereas not even the most
ardent Arab patriot claims that it contains any Arabs at all; and (2) that the Turks
are half as numerous as the Kurds, although every traveller knows that to meet a
Turk among the Sulaimaniyeh Kurds is almost as rare as it will presently be to meet
a Greek in
Anatolia
Peninsula that forms most of modern-day Turkey.
. But still more open to question is the Turkish statement that
there are only 28.000 Arabs in the Mosul “ liwa," when it is notorious that Mosul
town alone contains twice that number of Arabs. Apart from the intimate know
ledge gained by British officials during the last few years, Mosul was well known to
travellers before the war as one of the great Arab towns; yet we are asked to believe
that a population who, with insignificant exceptions, talk only Arabic and call them
selves Arab, are really Turks who happen to have learned Arabic. This argument
is on a par with that in which the Turkish delegation attempts to establish the
Turkish character of an area by referring to the" Turkish names of some of the
villages, forgetting that in the preceding paragraph it had claimed as Turkish an
area bearing the purely Arab name of Ashair Saba. By a similar process of reason
ing it might be demonstrated that Diarbekr and Marmurat-al-Aziz are Arab towns
and that Constantinople, Adrianople, Konia and Angora are Greek cities, an argu
mentation that would probably not be welcome to the Turkish delegation.
Further, the Turkish contention that Mosul town is Turkish is confuted by a
map (Carte ethnographique de FEmpire ottoman) which was produced by Bekir
Sami Bey as an official map during the negotiations in London in March 1921. This
map, though it indicates as inhabited by Turks and Kurds rather more territory than
is actually occupied by those two races, nevertheless supports fully the claim put
forward in the British memorandum of the 14th, viz., that the whole of the great
town of Mosul, the whole of the country north of Mosul on the right bank of the
Tigris as far as the boundary of the vilayet, the whole of the country south of Mosul
on the right bank of the Tigris, and most of the country south of Mosul on the left
bank of the Tigris as far as the Erbil-Kirkuk-Kifri road, are Arab.
Unable, even with the aid of the contentions which have been demolished in the
preceding paragraphs, to show that there is a Turkish majority in the Mosul Vilavet,
the Turkish delegation then proceeds to reinforce its case by the astounding claim
that the Kurds and the Turks are of the same stock. The Turkish delegation can
hardly expect credence for such a claim in face of a people who speak an Iranian
tongue closely allied to Persian, whose national customs are unlike those of the
Turks, who in particular differ from the Turks in their attitude to women to such
an extent that the theory of a different origin for the two races could almost be
established by that difference alone, and who present in physical appearance so
striking a contrast to the lurks that a traveller in any area where the population is
mixed can tell merely by looking at the faces of the people whether a particular
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Letters and papers on the frontier between Iraq (also written as Irak in the file) and Turkey, with particular reference to Mosul and questions concerning oil. The file consists mainly of correspondence between Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs George Curzon, and officials in the Foreign Office, Air Ministry, Colonial Office and Ismet Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. [Mustafa İsmet İnönü]. The contents of the file are as follows:
- Sir John Evelyn Shuckburgh to Curzon (15 November 1922). Letter enclosing paper setting out main arguments against evacuating Iraq
- Eric Graham Forbes Adam for Curzon (3 December 1922). Interview with Mukhtar Bey [Mukhtār Beg]; submission of draft telegrams to Foreign Office
- Sir William Tyrrell to Foreign Office (Memo, 3 December 1922, circulated to the Cabinet); interview with Ismet Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , 28 November 1922
- Air Staff for Cabinet (5 December 1922). Note: on Sir John Salmond’s proposal for a Forward Policy in the event of Turkish invasion of Iraq or a Resumption of Hostilities with Turkey, 4 December 1922
- Curzon to Foreign Office (6 December 1922). Telegram, 5 December 1922
- Middle East Department (7 December 1922). Note: Mosul – on above telegram
- Foreign Office to Curzon (8 December 1922). Telegram: Mosul
- Curzon to Ismet Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. (14 December 1922). Letter: enclosing Memo on Mosul Vilayet: reasons for refusing Turkish claim
- Curzon for Cabinet (26 December 1922). Curzon for Cabinet. Memo presented to Ismet Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. on Mosul, 14 December 1922
- Curzon to Cabinet (27 December 1922). Letter: Ismet Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. to Curzon enclosing reply to British memo, 23 December 1922
- Curzon for Cabinet (28 December 1922). Letter: Ismet Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. enclosing counter reply, 26 December 1922
- Ismet Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. (29 December 1922). Letter with annexed Memo
- Curzon for Cabinet (1 January 1923). Letter Ismet Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. to Curzon
- Sir Percy Cox to Colonial Office (30 December 1922)
- Sir Philip Lloyd-Greame to Sir Sydney Chapman (1 January 1923). Letter: possibility of settlement on basis of oil concessions to Turks and Italians
- Eric Graham Forbes Adam for Curzon (4 January 1923). Memo: conversation with Reader William Bullard and three Turkish experts
- Sir E Crowe to Curzon (3 January 1923). Telegram: from Colonial Office: oil
- Mr Lyndsay to Curzon (4 January 1923). Telegram: paraphrase of Colonial Office telegram to Bagdad [Baghdad], 2 January
- Curzon to Colonial Office (5 January 1923). Telegram: oil
- Sir Ronald William Graham to Curzon (8 January 1923). Letter: (printed for Cabinet) to Curzon: Italian press
- Reader William Bullard to Curzon (9 January 1923). Note: Mosul
- Sir Auckland Geddes (12 January 1923) Telegram: American attitude
- Notes by Curzon (16 January 1923). Handwritten: visit of Aga Petros to Ismet Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
- Shuckburgh to Forbes Adam (18 January 1923). Letter enclosing draft of telegram to Curzon
- Forbes Adam for Curzon (18 January 1923). Note attaching statement of the history and position with regard to the Mandates in Syria and Iraq and the question of frontiers
- British Case for Northern Frontier of Iraq with Map (19 January 1923). Folder containing notes ‘mostly taken from the memoranda which you (i.e. Curzon) exchanged with Ismet Pasha’ – December 1922
- Forbes Adam for Curzon (20 January 1923). Note: Plebiscite and Mosul
- Forbes Adam for Curzon: ‘Note attaching detailed minute as to the oil in Iraq and the history and present position of the claim of the Turkish Petroleum Company’
- Mr Childs's Statement for the American representatives (23 January 1923)
- Daily Telegraph cutting on League of Nations and Mosul Problem (27 January 1923)
- Curzon for Cabinet (26 January 1923). Speech: reply to Ismet Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. respecting Mosul, 23 January 1923
- Secretary of State for Colonies to Acting High Commissioner for Iraq (26 January 1923). Paraphrase: telegram: British proposal that question of Northern Frontier of Iraq should be referred to the League of Nations
- High Commissioner, Bagdad to Lord Crew (29 January 1923) Telegram: Enclosing telegram from Iraq Government to Lord Balfour for communication to League of Nations
- Lord Crewe to Curzon (31 January 1923). Telegram: Iraq frontier
- Telegram to Ankara signed by Ismet Hassan [‘Iṣmat Ḥasan] and Rozor Nur [Riḍa Nūr]
- Oil engineering and finance (17 February 1923). Article: The Mesopotamian Oilfields
- The Graphic (17 February 1923). Article: The Mystic City of Mosul
- Colonel Francis Richard Maunsell for Cabinet (24 September 1923). Notes on the Mosul frontier question
- Sir James Edward Masterton-Smith to Foreign Office (3 November 1923). Printed for the information of Curzon, copy of a despatch from the High Commissioner for Iraq, on the subject of the delimitation of the Turco-Irak frontier.
Following documents are undated:
- Lord Balfour to League of Nations. Speech: The frontier between Turkish territory and the territory of Iraq
- The President of the League of Nations. Reply: after Speech by Balfour
- Typewritten report: The question of Mosul
- Typewritten report: The Question of Mosul
The file also includes handwritten notes by Curzon on the Mosul vilayet and groups residing there.
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- 251 folios (1 file)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the front to the rear of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 251; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.
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