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File 87/1926 Pt 2 'Arabia: Bin Saud: Relations with H.M.G. Revision of Treaty.' [373v] (434/840)
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Saud could in any case agree to such a clause, and
on the whole it see '8 to me preferable not to propose
it.
(2) It seems to me quite unnecessary to attempt to
secure from Ibn Saud 1 recognition of our pr^fcriptive
rights for policing, lighting and buoying of the
Persian Gulf’. Our rights, such as they are, rest
entirely,I think, on usage, (though an article
notifying their recognition by the Turkish Government
was included.in one of the abortive Anglo-Turkish
Conventions signed in July 1913. This has not, as far
as I know, been published). To attempt to obtain
specific recognition for them now in a treaty that will
presumably be published see :s merely to be inviting
undesirable discussion. And so far as Ibn Saud is
concerned there seems little occasion to raise the
point. If he e erges more.effectively into the Gulf,
he is hardly likely to challenge British arrangements
in regard to lights, etc. so long e,s they are accepted in
other quarters.
The request of the Colonial Office for
copies of the Treaties with Arab States which should
be communicated to Ibn Saud puts on to this Office ( I
suppose with justification) a task that involves
considerable research. A similar question arose in 1911,
•w:.en copies of numerous agreements were communicated
by the Foreign Office with a covering note to the
Turkish Government.( Lote of 24th October 1911 , flagged
in volume below.) P 0 ssibly not all of these treaties
need be communicated to Ibn Saud. On the other hand
one least ( that with Katr of 1918) has to be added,
as well as something to cover Fuscat. It is a point
for
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The papers cover the recognition of Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] as King of the Hedjaz and Sultan of Nejd and its dependencies by foreign countries, and also contain:
- Report by Sir Gilbert Clayton, KBE, CB, CMG, on his Mission to negotiate certain Agreements with the Sultan of Nejd, and Instruction issued to him in regard to his Mission , 1926 (ff 516-560)
- Negotiations for revision of the 1916 Treaty with Ibn Saud
- A conference held at the Colonial Office to discuss HM Government's relations with Ibn Saud, 1926
- Relations between Ibn Saud and Persia
- Agreement with the Sultan of Nejd regarding certain questions relating to the Nejd-Trans-Jordan and Nejd-Iraq frontiers , 1925 (ff 395-402)
- The Hejaz- Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan border.
The principal correspondents are the Secretary of State for the Colonies, the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , the Colonial Office, the Foreign Office, HM Consul at Jeddah, and the Viceroy.
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