File of printed papers marked 'Egyptian negotiation' between Curzon and Adly Pasha and the Egyptian delegation [73r] (145/178)
The record is made up of 1 file (87 folios). It was created in 13 Jul 1921-4 Jan 1923. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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[This Document is the Property oi H is Britannic Majesty s Government. ^
CONFIDENTIAL.
The Marquess Curzon of Kedleston to Field-Marshal Viscount Allenhy {Cairo).
(No. 1255.)
My Lord, Foreign Office, November 19, 1921.
IN my final conversation with Adly
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
to-day, while explaining to him the
procedure as regards publication of which the Cabinet had approved, I told him that
in my opinion he and his colleagues had made a mistake, as soon as they had realised
that their extreme demands could not be conceded, in not accepting, or, if that was too
much, in not expressing their willingness to treat the British proposals as a provisional
arrangement to which, in their own interests, they would be prepared to give a trial,
in order to demonstrate, by the good administration inaugurated and the perfect
security obtained under it, bow mistaken the apprehension which had justified the
British refusal of wider concessions had been. 'Faking the parallel of the ascent of
the Great Pyramid as representing the Egyptian aspirations for independence, they
had claimed to be transported by aeroplane straight to the summits instead of mounting
by laborious stages, as all of us who ha 1 scaled that great monument had been obliged
to do. In the present case the British Government had offered to help them, as the
Arabs were in the habit-of doing with visitors to Ghizeh, more than half-way to the
top. Hut apparently the Egyptian Government, if they could not get there straight
away, preferred to remain stationary at the base.
Adly
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
asked me why we should not proceed ourselves to put into operation
scheme (Ab For the very obvious reason, I replied, that this could only be done
with Egyptian co-operation ; and yet he himself, the man most competent to give it,
had told me at our previous meeting that his first step on returning to Egypt would be
to resign.
I told him that the Egyptians could not have it both ways. They could not
both enjoy the luxury of refusing our proposals and posing as national heroes in
consequence, and at the same time expect us, without their assistance, to put into
operation the scheme of very considerable independence which they had chosen to
reject. The only consequence of their action would be to throw us back into the
status quo ante, which would be equally regrettable for both parties.
I said I understood the difficulties of his position. But I rather wondered why,
on the one or two occasions on which I had suggested the possibility of a provisional
arrangement, to be replaced, after satisfactory experience, by something more liberal
or advanced, he had turned down the suggestion. 1 invited him, while on his return
journey, to consider very carefully whether on arriving in Cairo it would not be in his
power to make to the Sultan and to your Lordship some proposal more in harmony
with the iacts of the situation both here and in Egypt, than the attitude of blank
negation which he had hitherto assume^.
The Egyptian Prime Minister was far from rejecting these ideas, which 1 had
made with the object of allowing them to germinate in his mind before he arrived in
Egypt—although, naturally enough, he could express no acceptance of them, lie left
, me with the warmest expression of thanks for the courtesy with which he and his
| colleagues had been treated at the Foreign Office and for the hospitality which they
■ had enjoyed in England, and I could certainly say in return, as l did, that l had found
[ him a very sincere and honourable negotiator with whom it had been a personal
r pleasure to deal.
I am, Ac.
CURZON OF KEDLESTON.
421—X [7346]
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The file contains correspondence, minutes, and memoranda relating to negotiations between the British and Egyptian governments over Egyptian independence. Most of the file consists of minutes of conferences that took place at the Foreign Office during July and August 1921. These conferences involved an Egyptian delegation, led by Sir Adly Yeghen [Yakan] Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and the British, led by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Lord George Nathaniel Curzon. Matters covered in these meetings included: the termination of the British Protectorate, Britain's military presence, foreign relations, legislation, employment of foreign officials, financial and judicial control, Soudan [Sudan], the Suez Canal, communication rights, protection of minorities, retirement and compensation of British officials, and diplomatic relations between the two countries.
Also contained within the file are minutes by Ronald Charles Lindsay and John Murray, both Foreign Office officials, and correspondence between Curzon, Lindsay, Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and Field Marshal Edmund Henry Hynman Allenby, High Commissioner for Egypt and Sudan. These papers all concern matters covered by the negotiations.
Documents of note include a copy of the Report of the Special Mission to Egypt, dated 9 December 1920 (folios 4-23), and a memorandum on the political situation in Egypt by John Murray, dated 4 January 1923 (folios 74-87).
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- 1 file (87 folios)
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The file is arranged in rough chronological order, from the front to the rear. On the inside front cover is a manuscript index with a numbered list of the file's contents.
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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 89; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 2-87; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled.
Pagination: the file also contains an original printed pagination sequence.
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