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File of printed papers marked 'Egyptian negotiation' between Curzon and Adly Pasha and the Egyptian delegation [‎72r] (143/178)

The record is made up of 1 file (87 folios). It was created in 13 Jul 1921-4 Jan 1923. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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]\Jiiiisters and to the Minister of Finance, and shall be entitled to receive information
on any matter within the purview of the Ministry of Finance.
“ He shall bo entitled more especially to satisfy himself that the following
charges are being punctually met:—
1- The charges for the budget of the Mixed Courts.
44 -• Ah pensions or other annuities payable to retired foreign officials and
their heirs.
44 d. J he service of the Unconsolidated Debt and of the loans charged on the
Ottoman Tribute.”
14. Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , on the 23rd August, suggested an alternative formula, but in
the course of several conversations he conveyed the impression that the principle
embodied in the text quoted in paragraph 13 above was not altogether unacceptable.
The question has been left at this stage.
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VI (lb) and (lb). Judicial Control.
15. This question was considered towards the close of the second conference, and
on the 14th July the text approved by the Cabinet was sent to the delegation, who,
on the 26th July, replied at some length, maintaining that a British Procureur general
of the Mixed Courts was all that His Majesty’s Government could require or the
delegation concede.
16. In subsequent conferences it was made clear that the judicial reform scheme
suggested in the Milner Report could not come into operation for several years, and
in the meantime the Egyptian proposal mentioned in the preceding paragraph was
unworkable. Finally, after conversation with Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , Mr. Lindsay, on the
20th August, sent him the following formula, designed to secure protection for
foreigners in Egypt :—
2nd Confer
ence, p. 6.
^“The Egyptian Government agree that the command of the police forces
in Cairo, Alexandria and Port Said shall continue, as at present, to be entrusted
to^ European officers with a sufficient European subordinate staff to ensure
efficiency. . *
“ To ensure co-ordination in the work of the police in the said three cities,
the Minister of the Interior will, in agreement with the High Commissioner,
appoint an official who shall not exercise any executive functions, but shall report
to the Minister on matters of police administration, especially those affecting
foreigners.
44 The Egyptian Government agree to appoint European legal advisers
(‘conseillers sultaniens’) in the Ministries of Justice and of the Interior.
Ihese legal advisers (‘conseillers sultaniens’) shall collaborate in the preparation
of all laws or regulations affecting foreigners.”
IE -Adly I asha was not ill-disposed towards the first paragraph of this formula,
and showed signs of being prepared to accept the last paragraph; but the second
paragraph, involving a British official in the Ministry of the Interior, was unpalatable.
IS. He suggested eventually that an alternative might be found by creating a
bureau in that Ministry under a British chief lor watching over police matters affecting
foreigners. If this solution w^as adopted, he was anxious to omit reference in the treaty
to the three commandants, though he admitted that in practice they would have to be
Englishmen, as Egyptians could not be found willing to take on the job and be made
the scapegoats ol the Governors in the event of trouble. The matter was left in this
stage.
VII (17). Soudan.
1 ( J. The delegation, beyond a passing reference during the first conference, have istconfer-
avoided any mention of the Soudan. They no doubt feel on Aveak ground, as the ence >P- 4 -
Soudan was specifically excluded by Lord Milner from his recommendations, and its
status is defined b} the 18D9 C onvention. Ultimately they will have to mention it, but
it would seem to be better tactics to leave the delegation to make the first move.
VIII (18). Suez Canal.
bPi This proposal was discussed by Mr. Lindsay with Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , who w r as sent on
the 19th August the text of the clause suggested by the Board of Trade:—
During the ten years immediately following the coming into force of this
treaty the Egyptian Government will, in consultation with the Suez Canal

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The file contains correspondence, minutes, and memoranda relating to negotiations between the British and Egyptian governments over Egyptian independence. Most of the file consists of minutes of conferences that took place at the Foreign Office during July and August 1921. These conferences involved an Egyptian delegation, led by Sir Adly Yeghen [Yakan] Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and the British, led by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Lord George Nathaniel Curzon. Matters covered in these meetings included: the termination of the British Protectorate, Britain's military presence, foreign relations, legislation, employment of foreign officials, financial and judicial control, Soudan [Sudan], the Suez Canal, communication rights, protection of minorities, retirement and compensation of British officials, and diplomatic relations between the two countries.

Also contained within the file are minutes by Ronald Charles Lindsay and John Murray, both Foreign Office officials, and correspondence between Curzon, Lindsay, Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and Field Marshal Edmund Henry Hynman Allenby, High Commissioner for Egypt and Sudan. These papers all concern matters covered by the negotiations.

Documents of note include a copy of the Report of the Special Mission to Egypt, dated 9 December 1920 (folios 4-23), and a memorandum on the political situation in Egypt by John Murray, dated 4 January 1923 (folios 74-87).

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1 file (87 folios)
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The file is arranged in rough chronological order, from the front to the rear. On the inside front cover is a manuscript index with a numbered list of the file's contents.

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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 89; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 2-87; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled.

Pagination: the file also contains an original printed pagination sequence.

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