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File of printed papers marked 'Egyptian negotiation' between Curzon and Adly Pasha and the Egyptian delegation [64r] (127/178)
The record is made up of 1 file (87 folios). It was created in 13 Jul 1921-4 Jan 1923. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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[This Docu m ent is the Property of Hig Britannic Majesty’s Government.]
421—8 [0824]
CONFIDENTIAL.
EGYPTIAN NEGOTIATIONS.
[E 9590/260/16]
Minute by Mr. Lindsay.
Lord Ourzon,
ADLY
PASHA
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
called this morning and we resumed discussion of the Advisers in
the tone which prevailed yesterday. We finished up by sending him away with the
two formulae, which I annex, to think over.
Over the finance formula he made little difficulty. He made some question over
the wide powers of enquiry contemplated, and he reserved the question of the loans
charged on the tribute (the last words of the formula) as to which his delegation was
making some investigations. lie also threw out the interesting suggestion that an
English Under Secretary for Finance might be stipulated for in the treaty.
Over the other formula, for the protection of foreigners, he had far more
hesitation. It is true that whereas yesterday he had only tentatively suggested an
English commandant in Cairo, to-day he accepted that idea without demur; and he
had nothing to say about the Sultanic Advisers. It was the Inspector-General at Cairo
over the three police commandants that gave him difficulty. He reminded us that
Inspectors-General of Police had existed before in Egypt, that they had exercised great
powers, and that they had finally been merged into the Adviser of the Interior. All
this I admitted, but pointed out that an English Minister could not in Parliament
defend a position in which he was providing safeguards for Europeans in three towns
and nothing at all for Europeans outside them. His answer—the only piece of talking
to the gallery that we had was that Europeans outside the towns were in quite a
different position, and did not require any special guarantees. He admitted that some
central authority over the three commandants was wanted, but said it ought not to be
in the treaty, and of course the Egyptian Government could, and indeed would, have
to provide it.
I am inclined to think that what he really wants is to avoid all appearance of
any English control in the Ministry of the Interior. That Ministry has always been
the one in which English influence has been the least prominent, and very likely
native feeling is strong that, under the new regime, that Ministry at any rate shall be
purely Egyptian.
In any case I should not despair ; I think something may yet he found.
R. C. L.
August 20, 1921.
C.
August 21, 1921.
Annex.
Mr. Lindsay to Adly
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
.
My dear
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
, Foreign Office, August 20, 1921.
As I promised you this morning in the course of our conversation, I now send
you, for your consideration, the text of the two formulae which we discussed with
regard to finance and the protection of foreigners.
Yours sincerely,
R. C. LINDSAY.
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The file contains correspondence, minutes, and memoranda relating to negotiations between the British and Egyptian governments over Egyptian independence. Most of the file consists of minutes of conferences that took place at the Foreign Office during July and August 1921. These conferences involved an Egyptian delegation, led by Sir Adly Yeghen [Yakan] Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and the British, led by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Lord George Nathaniel Curzon. Matters covered in these meetings included: the termination of the British Protectorate, Britain's military presence, foreign relations, legislation, employment of foreign officials, financial and judicial control, Soudan [Sudan], the Suez Canal, communication rights, protection of minorities, retirement and compensation of British officials, and diplomatic relations between the two countries.
Also contained within the file are minutes by Ronald Charles Lindsay and John Murray, both Foreign Office officials, and correspondence between Curzon, Lindsay, Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and Field Marshal Edmund Henry Hynman Allenby, High Commissioner for Egypt and Sudan. These papers all concern matters covered by the negotiations.
Documents of note include a copy of the Report of the Special Mission to Egypt, dated 9 December 1920 (folios 4-23), and a memorandum on the political situation in Egypt by John Murray, dated 4 January 1923 (folios 74-87).
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- 1 file (87 folios)
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The file is arranged in rough chronological order, from the front to the rear. On the inside front cover is a manuscript index with a numbered list of the file's contents.
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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 89; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 2-87; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled.
Pagination: the file also contains an original printed pagination sequence.
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- File of printed papers marked 'Egyptian negotiation' between Curzon and Adly Pasha and the Egyptian delegation
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- front, front-i, 2r:24v, 27r:40v, 46r:53v, 55r:59v, 62r:62v, 64r, 65r, 66r:67v, 71r:85v, 88r:88v, back-i, back
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