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File of printed papers marked 'Egyptian negotiation' between Curzon and Adly Pasha and the Egyptian delegation [‎20v] (40/178)

The record is made up of 1 file (87 folios). It was created in 13 Jul 1921-4 Jan 1923. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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be maintained, but it is out of the question that this connection should take the
form of the subjection of the Sudan to Egypt. The former country is capable or
and entitled to independent development in accordance with its own character and
requirements. It is much too early to attempt to determine its ultimate political
status. For present purposes that status is sufficiently defined by the C onvention ot
1899 between Great Britain and Egypt, which provides for the necessan political
connection between Egypt and the Sudan without hampering the independent
development of the latter country.
Though it is absolutely necessary for the present to maintain a single supreme
authority over the wffiole of the Sudan, it is not desirable that the government ot that
country should be highly centralised. Having regard to its vast extent and the varied
character of its inhabitants, the administration of its dillerent parts should be left,
as far as possible, in the hands of the native authorities, wherever they exist, under
British supervision. A centralised bureaucracy is w r holly unsuitable for the Sudan.
Decentralisation and the employment, wherever possible, of native agencies for the
simple administrative needs of the country, in its present stage of development,
would make both for economy and efficiency. At the present time the officials of local
origin are still largely outnumbered by those introduced from Egypt, with whom
service in the Sudan is by no means popular. This difficulty will be overcome as
education progresses and a greater number of Sudanese themselves become capable of
filling official posts. At the same time care should be taken, in the matter of educa
tion, not to repeat the mistake which has been made in Egypt of introducing a
system which fits pupils for little else than employment in clerical and minor
administrative posts, and creates an overgrown body of aspirants to Government
employment. There is no room in the Sudan for a host of petty officials, and educa
tion should be directed to giving the Sudanese a capacity and a taste for employment
in other directions, such as agriculture, industry, commerce and engineering. The
immediate need of the country is material development, and it can do without an
elaborate administrative system.
The military forces still employed in the Sudan are very large. A large army
was, no doubt, required to complete the conquest and pacification of the country, but
the time has come when, in our opinion, the question of the number and organisation
of its military forces should be reconsidered, and the financial burden upon Egypt
wTiich the maintenance of that force involves be reduced. Hitherto, the Governor-
Generalship of the Sudan and the Command-in-Chief of the Egyptian army have
been united in one person. There were good reasons for this in the past, but it is
indefensible as a permanent arrangement. At the first convenient opportunity a
civil Governor-General should be appointed.
In general it should be the aim of British policy to relieve Egypt from any
financial responsibility for the Sudan and to establish the relations of the two
countries for the future upon a basis wffiich will secure the independent development
of the Sudan wffiile safeguarding the vital interests of . Egypt in the waters of the
Nile.
Egypt has an indefeasible right to an ample and assured supply of water for the
land at present under cultivation and to a fair share of any increased supply which
engineering skill may be able to provide. A formal declaration on the part of Great
Britain that she recognises this right and is resolved under all circumstances to
uphold it would go far to allay the uneasiness which prevails in Egypt on this
subieet. We are of opinion that such a declaration might with advantage be made
at the present time.
E.— Visit of Egyptian delegates to Egypt.
At the close of the discussions which resulted in the memorandum of the 18th
August, Zaghlul Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. and the other delegates as well as Adli Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. left London
for France. Four of the Delegation (Mohammed Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. Mahmud, Ahmed Lutfi Bey
el Said, Abdel Latif Bey el Mukabati, and AH Bey Maher) proceeded immediately
to Egypt in accordance with the understanding already referred to (see p. 23) in order
to enlist the support of their countrymen for the scheme outlined in the memorandum.
1 he substance of that document, with certain inaccuracies of detail, had meanwhile
found its way into the press and been received in Egypt with expressions of approval.
About the same time publicity was given in that country to a long manifesto
from Zaghlul Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , in which he emphasised the representative character of the
Delegation and the support which it had received from the nation. He referred to
the endeavours made by the Delegation to submit the Egyptian case to the Peace
Conference and to the world at large, claiming that a considerable amount of
sympathy had been gained in foreign countries. He went on to speak of the appoint-

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The file contains correspondence, minutes, and memoranda relating to negotiations between the British and Egyptian governments over Egyptian independence. Most of the file consists of minutes of conferences that took place at the Foreign Office during July and August 1921. These conferences involved an Egyptian delegation, led by Sir Adly Yeghen [Yakan] Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and the British, led by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Lord George Nathaniel Curzon. Matters covered in these meetings included: the termination of the British Protectorate, Britain's military presence, foreign relations, legislation, employment of foreign officials, financial and judicial control, Soudan [Sudan], the Suez Canal, communication rights, protection of minorities, retirement and compensation of British officials, and diplomatic relations between the two countries.

Also contained within the file are minutes by Ronald Charles Lindsay and John Murray, both Foreign Office officials, and correspondence between Curzon, Lindsay, Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and Field Marshal Edmund Henry Hynman Allenby, High Commissioner for Egypt and Sudan. These papers all concern matters covered by the negotiations.

Documents of note include a copy of the Report of the Special Mission to Egypt, dated 9 December 1920 (folios 4-23), and a memorandum on the political situation in Egypt by John Murray, dated 4 January 1923 (folios 74-87).

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1 file (87 folios)
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The file is arranged in rough chronological order, from the front to the rear. On the inside front cover is a manuscript index with a numbered list of the file's contents.

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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 89; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 2-87; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled.

Pagination: the file also contains an original printed pagination sequence.

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