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File 1166/1925 'Arabia: Nejd; negotiations with Ibn Saud regarding Iraq-Nejd question and Trans-Jordan boundary; Sir G Clayton's mission; Bahra agreement, 2nd November, 1925' [145v] (297/769)
The record is made up of 1 volume (378 folios). It was created in 14 Apr 1925-28 Jul 1927. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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Seventeenth Meeting.
At 4 p.m. on the 1st November I had another informal meeting
with His Highness, at which, after a lengthy exposition of his
situation and a r 6 sum 6 of past history since the outbreak of the war,
he concluded by asking me whether I could assure him that any
views he expressed to me would in fact reach His Majesty’s Govern
ment and receive due consideration.
I replied that His Majesty’s Government were anxious to take the
opportunity of my visit to ascertain his views on any matters which
he wished to bring before them. I assured him that any views which
he expressed to me would be transmitted directly to His Majesty s
Government, and that I felt sure that they would receive full con
sideration and elicit a reply in due course.
Ibn Sa‘ud expressed his satisfaction at this statement, adding that
he had on various occasions given his views to officers of His
Majesty’s Government, who had promised to convey them to the
proper authority, but that hitherto he had received no information
as to whether thev had been duly considered or not. He then in
formed me that if I would have another meeting with him in the
course of an hour or two he would bring up the questions on which
he desired to speak.
Eighteenth Meeting.
At 8 p.m. on the 1st November I had another meeting with Ibn
Sa‘ud, which he opened by telling me that he wished to raise a
question of considerable importance, which was that of the Treaty
which now existed between himself and His Majesty’s Government.
It had been concluded at a time when the War was in progress and
his own position at that time was a very different one from that which
he occupied to-day. He felt, therefore, that the time had come
when both parties should consider whether that Treaty should be
revised on lines which were more suitable to existing circumstances.
I replied that I saw the force of his argument, but that the exist
ence of a state of hostilities between him and the Hejaz would prob
ably preclude His Majesty’s Government entering into any negotia
tions as regards a new Treaty at present. To take action m this
direction would hardly be in consonance with the declaration ot
neutrality which His Majesty’s Government had made; moreover, it
was obvious, I thought, that until the present situation had been
liquidated no good purpose would be served by discussing the ques
tion, and the date when this might be possible was still vague and
uncertain.
Ibn Sa'ud said he fully realised the position in this respect, but he
wished to bring seriously to the notice of His Majesty’s Governmen
the question of negotiating.a new Treaty whenever the circumstances
rendered it possible to do so, and he hoped that His Majesty s
Government would take this matter into serious consideration am
give him a reply in due course.
Ibn Sa'ud then said he had two other questions of lesser importance
to raise and, after considerable circumlocution and a good deal of ta
about the difficulties of post-war conditions, the rise in the cost o
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This volume contains correspondence, reports, telegrams, a memorandum and minutes between Sultan of Nejd Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] and the British Representative regarding the negotiations of the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan boundary after the First World War. Related matters of discussion include the following: Gilbert Clayton’s mission; a conference agreement with tribunal representation; relations between Iran and Nejd relating to refugee issues; the British mandate; the railway in the southern part of Nejd; Mullah Hafiz; the Bahra agreement; the Hada Agreement; the Jeddah Agreement; and conflicts and riots between Iraq and Nejd around the frontier. The correspondence in the volume is mainly internal correspondence between British officials, although the Sultan of Nejd and officials from the Iraqi Government also feature.
The principal correspondents are: the High Commissioner for Iraq; Under Secretary of States; Sir Gilbert Falkingham Clayton, British Agent and Consul General in Jeddah; and the Government of Iraq. Other items of note include a hand-drawn map showing the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan frontier (f 223), a draft of the negotiations between Gilbert Clayton and Ibn Saud (ff 287-305); an annotated draft of negotiations by R V Vernon (ff 123-167); a newspaper article about the Anglo-Wahabi Agreement (f 196); and finally a memorandum with a list by the Iraqi Government summited to the Tribunal regarding the damages after the raids (ff 55-57).
The volume includes a divider, which gives the subject number, the year the subject file was opened, the subject heading, and a list of correspondence references by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
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- 1 volume (378 folios)
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The volume's contents are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the volume.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the first folio with 1 and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.A previous foliation sequence between ff 256-378, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out. The foliation sequence does not include the front and back covers.
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