File 1166/1925 'Arabia: Nejd; negotiations with Ibn Saud regarding Iraq-Nejd question and Trans-Jordan boundary; Sir G Clayton's mission; Bahra agreement, 2nd November, 1925' [142r] (290/769)
The record is made up of 1 volume (378 folios). It was created in 14 Apr 1925-28 Jul 1927. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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irentier were to be regarded as definitely fixed and, in view of this
and of the Imperial interests involved, I was unable to consider or
discuss any such proposals. On the other hand, 1 was prepared to
consider measures by which the trade and commercial interests in
that area could be safeguarded, not by any alteration of the frontier
but by the granting of proper facilities to caravans.
Ibn Sa‘ud then argued on these various points at some length, but
the reasons which he produced in support of his demands struck me
not only as inadequate but, for the most part, as disingenuous.
I then closed the interview by expressing my regret that with the
exception ol the two points to which I had agreed to give considera
tion I was unable to make any changes in the position which I had
taken up or in the proposals which I had put forward, both of which
weie the result of mature consideration of the arguments produced
and the facts of the situation. I trusted, therefore, that His High
ness would now consider the matter in the light of my remarks and
would give me an early reply which would enable me to close the
discussions and to proceed to the detailed work of drafting an agree
ment, in order that our stay, which had already assumed undue pro
portions, should be brought to an end as soon as possible.
The meeting then closed at 11.30 a.m.
Twelfth Meeting.
The twelfth meeting took place in the afternoon on the 26th
October, at which the attendance was as usual.
I asked Ibn Sa‘ud if he had reconsidered the question in view of
what had taken place at the meeting in the morning, and informed
him that, on consideration of the arguments which he had brought
forward in regard to the frontier line immediately north of Kaf, I
had decided to meet him by pushing the line slightly further to the
north and making it run from the point of intersection of meridian
39° E. with parallel 32° N. to the point of intersection of meridian
37° E. with parallel 31° 30 / N., from which point it would proceed in
a straight line to the point of intersection on meridian 38° E. and
parallel 30° N., leaving all protruding edges of the
Wadi
A seasonal or intermittent watercourse, or the valley in which it flows.
Sirhan in
Nejd territory. This amendment would secure sufficient pasturage
ground for the inhabitants of Kaf.
Ibn Sa'ud expressed his appreciation of this concession and then
proceeded to enter into a long discussion regarding the northern
frontier, during the course of which he brought forward several argu
ments and hypotheses with a view to emphasising the necessity of
an absolutely free passage in that area between Nejd and Syria.
I informed him in reply that I was quite unable to admit any prin
ciple by which Trans-Jordan and ‘Iraq would be separated from each
other by a strip of territory such as he suggested, but I reiterated
my readiness to consider any proposal he might put forward with a
view to facilitating trade routes between Nejd and Syria across the
strip of Trans-Jordan territory.
In the end it was agreed that his advisers should prepare his
proposals and submit them informally for my examination.
The meeting then closed.
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This volume contains correspondence, reports, telegrams, a memorandum and minutes between Sultan of Nejd Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] and the British Representative regarding the negotiations of the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan boundary after the First World War. Related matters of discussion include the following: Gilbert Clayton’s mission; a conference agreement with tribunal representation; relations between Iran and Nejd relating to refugee issues; the British mandate; the railway in the southern part of Nejd; Mullah Hafiz; the Bahra agreement; the Hada Agreement; the Jeddah Agreement; and conflicts and riots between Iraq and Nejd around the frontier. The correspondence in the volume is mainly internal correspondence between British officials, although the Sultan of Nejd and officials from the Iraqi Government also feature.
The principal correspondents are: the High Commissioner for Iraq; Under Secretary of States; Sir Gilbert Falkingham Clayton, British Agent and Consul General in Jeddah; and the Government of Iraq. Other items of note include a hand-drawn map showing the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan frontier (f 223), a draft of the negotiations between Gilbert Clayton and Ibn Saud (ff 287-305); an annotated draft of negotiations by R V Vernon (ff 123-167); a newspaper article about the Anglo-Wahabi Agreement (f 196); and finally a memorandum with a list by the Iraqi Government summited to the Tribunal regarding the damages after the raids (ff 55-57).
The volume includes a divider, which gives the subject number, the year the subject file was opened, the subject heading, and a list of correspondence references by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
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The volume's contents are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the volume.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the first folio with 1 and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.A previous foliation sequence between ff 256-378, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out. The foliation sequence does not include the front and back covers.
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