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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [329r] (657/691)
The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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Y
unc.e- st nd is a well-knov/n Persian shipowner in Const ntinople.
I referred tlie matter to my Consul General in India for his orders.-
I • received another telegrain from the Persian Consul General at
Constantinople on the 13th September saying that the original
documents of the steamer had been sent to Basra for ransmission
to Bombay and asking me to give a provisional permit to the steamer
for sailing to Basra. I referred this telegram also to my Consul
General. The Consul General in India was in telegraphic communication!
with the Foreign Office Tehran for sometime in connection with this
Steamer and ultimately received orders to issue a provisional
certificate to this steamer. Unuer the orders of the Consul General I
I issued such a certificate ^nd informed the Port Officer of the
s^rne. The Port Officer demanded the ships Register • nd in a personal
.
interviev; had with him informed me that my certificate must be
endorsed on the Ship’s Register in order that the change, of
n‘- tionality may be accepted by him. The C' ptain repeatedly wired
to his masters for the ship’s register but the same evidently has
not yet arrived. I received a letter from the Captain on the 5th
instant asking me to put myself in telegraphic communication with
the owner of the ship. I have not acceded to'his request as I do not
consider myself justified in putting my Government to heavy
expenses on account of a private steamer.
Under the circumstances it appears probable that the alleged
owner of the steamer will take steps to claim it for himself and as
communication with him in Constantinople has become difficult on
account of the state of War I have the honour to request the t
Government may be pleased to stay their nands for some re - son. ole
time and give a chance to the alleged owner to prove his Persian
Nationality and the bona fides of his purclr se."
21. On the 13th November 1914 the Secretary, Defence Committee,
Bombay Defences, was asked in the
Government of Bombay
From c. 1668-1858, the East India Company’s administration in the city of Bombay [Mumbai] and western India. From 1858-1947, a subdivision of the British Raj. It was responsible for British relations with the Gulf and Red Sea regions.
letter
2995-W, dated the 13th November 1914, to seise the vessel formally
on behalf of Government.
22. The Government of India, Department of Commerce, and
Industries, were informed accordingly in the
Government of Bombay
From c. 1668-1858, the East India Company’s administration in the city of Bombay [Mumbai] and western India. From 1858-1947, a subdivision of the British Raj. It was responsible for British relations with the Gulf and Red Sea regions.
letter No.3372-W, dated the 23rd November 1914. In this letter
/
they were also informed of the reasons for the alleged detention
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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.
The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.
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- Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’
- Pages
- 328r:329v, 326r:326v, 212r:212v, 213v, 139r:140v
- Author
- Khan, Mirza Ali Akbar
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