Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [240v] (480/691)
The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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141, Fenchurch Street, London, E. G., 14th January 1914.
6
Messrs. S. ATYCHIDES & Th. B. VAHRATOGLOU,
Constantinopole.
Dear Sirs,
£
We beg to confirm our letter of last night and our wire of this morning
stating that the “ Ocamo ” and “ Oruro ” owners refuse your offer of .£10,000
for both of these boats, and subject being unsold the price is £12,000 delivery
at Halifax.
I he owners only wired today, and stating they were treating for her sale
10 i n America, but if this was not successful they would accept £12,000 for the
two with delivery Halifax, Nova Scotia.
We now await your reply, at the same time if the boats were worth the
money to you, no doubt we could get the owners to accept your offer ; still it
seems very evident that £12,000 is the lowest, and you will notice they did
15 not cable at once, showing they were rather firm and not too anxious.
W e await your news, and will do our best according to your instructions.
Meantime.
Yours faithfully,
ROWLAND WILLIS & Co.
20 THE INDO-EUROPEAN TELEGRAPH Co., Ltd.
To ATYCHIDES,
Galata.
12,500 delivery Liverpool refused will accept 12,000 Halifax.
ASCETERIA.
25 141, Fenchwrch Street, London, E. C., 22nd January 1914.
Messrs. ATYCHIDES & Th. B. VAHRATOGLOU,
Constantinopole.
Dear Sirs,
S.S. “Ocamo” and “Oruro.” We have just heard today that the
30 owners have refused an offer of £^2,500 for^these two boats with delivery and
inspection at Liverpool, but they have cabled back that they will accept
£12,000 for the two with delivery Halifax, Nova Scotia. It would be easy
we think to get a freight from there with apples, or a cargo to Italy possibly
from the United States. / 35 * * * *
35 If these are any use to you at these prices with delivery at Halifax, we
shall be glad if you will cable us when we will do our best.
Meantime.
Yours faithfully,
ROWLAND WILLIS & Co.
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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.
The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.
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