Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [156r] (311/691)
The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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'jJt. 1450/34
(E 355/346/34)
Important
FOREIGN OFFICE, S.Yf.l
1st March, 1934
My dear Gilbert,
1 send you herewith copies of correspondence exchanged
with Hoare on the subject of the draft claims article and
protocol in the Anglo-Persian treaty, and the bearing of the
Atychides claim on this draft.
2. As time is short, we felt justified in sending off our
reply, which merely states our own views, withour consulting
you beforehand. Hoare, as you will see, has not yet been
authorised to broach the question with the Persians, but is
is of course very desirable that he should at the earliest
moment be given the word '’go", and 1 should therefore be
grateful if you would let me know as soon as possible whether
you concur. Owing to arrangements which we recently made
with the Dominions Office, it will no longer be necessary
to aelay action pending the consent of each separate Dominion
to the wording proposed for the claims draft; the Dominions
will merely be informed of the gist of the draft, and told
that we are going ahead on this basis. Consequently, all
that is now required before we authorize Hoare to adopt the
draft definitively is your concurrence, and the Treasury 1 s,
in the minor alterations referred to in paragraph 7 of the
despatch to him. And of these alterations, the only one of
substance is that which comprises the deletion of the words
were directly due to those circumstances and
n
M from paragraph 1 of the treaty article. Our
which
reasons for recommending this deletion are given in the
despatch; the matter has been gone into very carefully by
our legal advisers, who now feel that it would be impracticable
to attempt to draw a distinction between those war claims
J.G.Laithwaite, Esq
( T, other/
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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.
The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.
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- Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’
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- front, front-i, 2r:109v, 114r:117v, 121r:134v, 136r:137v, 141r:166v, 169r:170v, 173r:184v, 186r:192v, 209r:209v, 211r:211v, 213r, 214r:215v, 223r:229v, 230v:233v, 243v:267v, 280r:287v, 291r:302v, 304r:323v, 325r:325v, 327r:327v, 330r:341v, 345r:345v, back
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