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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [115r] (229/691)
The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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privy Council*
The etory told there is that of * Turk* , tychldee*
who* shortly before the war* became natur lieed Into a
country ( ersia * where he had never lived* and of which
he did not know the language; who said he was allowed
to lo so by the Tur ish Govt, to free his children from
serving in the Turkish rmyf who* on being granted release
fro.a Turkish nationelity* was pernitted to remain and
carry on his shining business at Constantinople* on con
dition of being treated as a Turkish subject; who had
been in partnership there with urks and Germans in the
ownership of vessels; and whose vesi-els were* both before
and after the outbreak of war* in the service of the Turkiah
Cover, meat, engaged in the tr^, sport of troops* < n
ugust 15, 1914* he bought the "Kra Denis 4 ’ a Turkish ship
of 5GoO tons* then on a voyage to Bombay* with the intention
of tr naferring her to the Persian flag (presumably like
his other vessels at Constantinople); she arrived at
Bombay on August 19, flying the Turkish flag, with a Turkish
master and crew* but without a ship’s register, and
was seized there shortly after Turkey entered the war;
in Court his evidence showed that he did not in end to
abandon his con ercial domicile at Constantinople* and
that he had pre-arranged that the vessel (now re-named
’’Hamsdan*) sdould proceed to a Turkiah port* Basra* though
he could assign no good reason for sending her there*
The delay of the ship at Bombay was due to several causes*
of which the only one that appears to concern us was
that due to the tr nsfer of flag* sine: the Indian G ?vern-
raent olicitor denied that there wes any valid transfer
of
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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.
The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).
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- 1 file (343 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.
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- Title
- Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’
- Pages
- front, front-i, 2r:109v, 114r:117v, 121r:134v, 136r:137v, 141r:166v, 169r:170v, 173r:184v, 186r:192v, 209r:209v, 211r:211v, 213r, 214r:215v, 223r:229v, 230v:233v, 243v:267v, 280r:287v, 291r:302v, 304r:323v, 325r:325v, 327r:327v, 330r:341v, 345r:345v, back
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