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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎88r] (175/691)

The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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have the effect of translating 18 of their claims placed in category (b) into
category (a), and which gives additional validity to five of their claims placed in
category (c).
21. These differences doubtless arise from differences of opinion in different
minds as to the degree of exactness requisite to form a claim valid both in
substance and in evidence, as claims placed in category (a) might be presumed to
be; and to this former habits and customs in Persia in the making of claims have
probably contributed. But while weight must seemingly be attached to the views
of the consuls on the spot that the claims they have placed in category (a) are
claims which (in the words of the Legation circular of 1924) either arose from
the action or inaction of the Persian Government or its officials, or otherwise lie
clearly against that Government, it is evident that in dealing here with such
claims they can only be dealt with according to their legal sufficiency or
insufficiency, on the evidence available, or which may yet become available, to
meet the test of whatever tribunal they may be eventually brought before. It is
to be feared, therefore, that the number of those placed in category (a) by the
consuls will suffer further reduction on this account.
22. Category (b).—The claims placed in category (b) are returned by five
consulates alone, viz., Isfahan, Kerman, Shiraz, Tabriz and Yezd—as lying
clearly against the Persian Government, though not backed by really complete and
adequate evidence. They number 72 cases, relating almost entirely to highway
robberies, though a few are for other forms of robbery, and one for war-time
depredations in Urumia. They may be classified as follows, distinguishing again
between those which occurred in peace-time and war-time.
Peace-time (62 cases).
Highway robberies, 1907 to 1921 (57 cases): 366,312-91 krans,
£4,328 Os. lid.
Caravanserai A roadside inn providing accommodation for caravans (groups of travellers). robbery, 1911 : £35.
Civil disturbances. Kazerun, March 1914 (2 cases): 2,062-50 krans
£1,079.
Tribal raids, 1912-13 (2 cases) : 21,767 krans.
War-time (10 cases).
Highway robberies (9 cases): 124,679-07 krans, £2,367 3s. Od.
Urumia, depredations in : 200,000 krans.
23. These category (6) claims, some of which cover more than one claimant,
yield an aggregate of peace-time claims of 390.142-41 krans, and £5,442 0s. lid.
—and of war-time claims of 324,679 -07 krans, and £2,367 3s. 0d.; or a combined
total of 714,821 -48 krans, and £7,809 3s. lid. The evidence furnished in support
of them, though incomplete, is in a good many instances not very different from
that furnished in some of the category (a) claims, and it is set out in the volumes
Consulate Claims in each case. The reasons assigned by the consuls for placing
the claims in category (£>) are as follows :—
At Isfahan, because the claimants have not responded, or have been
unable to respond, to requests made in 1925 that they should furnish further
affidavits in support of their original claims, which are nevertheless just
claims, never disputed.
At Kerman, because the claims are old and the claimants difficult to
trace or dead.
At Shiraz, because firms being in liquidation the liquidator is now
unable to furnish affidavits; or because the correspondence, or part of it.
with the local administration cannot now be traced; or because the local
administration never replied to the representation made; or because the
muleteer’s statement is not now available; or because the robbers came from
a neighbouring jurisdiction, &c. : the claims being nevertheless just claims
against Persia.
At Tabriz, because the claim is not backed by complete and adequate
evidence.
At Yezd, because the claim fell to be dealt with by another British
consulate; or because the identity of robbers and the locality of the
occurrence does not appear.
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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.

The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).

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1 file (343 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.

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