Coll 17/35 ‘Iraq. Iraq – Saudi Relations. Demarcation of Frontier.’ [21v] (42/112)
The record is made up of 1 file (53 folios). It was created in 28 May 1937-5 Oct 1940. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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'■ proceeds in a straight line to a point on the Hejaz Railway 2 miles south
of Mudawwara [point F]. From this point it proceeds m a straight line
to a point on the Gulf of Aqaba 2 miles south of the town of Aqaba
[point G].”
As in the case of the extract from the Hadda Agreement, the notes in square
brackets are added for convenience of reference.
4. The frontier between Nejd and the Hejaz (now Saudi Arabia) and
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
resulting from the Hadda Agreement and Sir Gilbert Clayton s
letter, though never delimited, was observed for some years by the local authoi ities
and populations on both sides without any serious difficulty arising, and nothing
worse than a few local incidents occurred to disturb relations between His
Majesty’s Government and the Saudi Arabian Government.
(B )—The Discussions of 1934- 35.
5. In 1934, however, two points about which there had been some dispute
formed the subject of communications from the Saudi Arabian Government.
These were :—
(i) Hazim, an important well at the head of the
Wadi
A seasonal or intermittent watercourse, or the valley in which it flows.
Sirhan.
(ii) Thaniyya Taraif, which was presumed to be one or both of two water
courses lying to the east of the debel Tubaik, in the south-eastei n
corner of
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
, and shown as Shaib Tarais and Shaib
Thaniyya on the 1918 map.
6. The question of Hazim arose in the following way : A somewhat similar
disagreement over the neighbouring well of Haditha had led a few years before
to the recognition by
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
that the well lay within Saudi Arabian
territory, and to the subsequent suggestion that if the Saudi Arabian Govern
ment would allow
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
patrols to water at Haditha Saudi patrols should
enjoy the same facilities at Hazim. On the 2nd June, 1934, six months after
this suggestion was made, the Saudi Arabian Government replied with a request
to be supplied with the results of any ‘ ‘ astronomic measurements '' which might
have been made at Hazim. The Saudi Arabian Government also indicated that
they considered the w T ell to lie exactly on the frontier with
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
. The
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
Government were convinced that it lay on their own side of the
frontier, but owing to the state of ignorance in which His Majesty’s Government
then found themselves about the geography of the Avhole area in question, it
was decided to leave the request for further information unanswered. The Saudi
Arabian Government have not since returned to the charge; and it may be added
that although at seasons when tribes are grazing in the Hazim area a small
Saudi patrol has been encamped near the well, in addition to the seasonal post
of the
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
Police, no serious incident has occurred there.
7. As regards Thaniyya Taraif, the first Saudi Arabian protest was made
in October 1934. It was vaguely worded as regards the exact point complained
of, and His Majesty’s Government, being then still ignorant of the geographical
facts, took advantage of this vagueness to conceal their doubts, and to reply
that the car track on which the place named was situated had been used regularly
by
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
patrols for the past three years and was in
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
territory.
A further protest was made by the Saudi Arabian Government early in 1935. It
attempted to be more precise in indicating the place concerned, and this suggested
that the Saudi Arabian Government were using the 1918 map. By this time
His Majesty’s Government had received maps compiled from recent surveys.
These maps left no room for doubt that the car track round the southern and
eastern flanks of the Jebel Tubaik used by armoured cars of the Royal Air
Force and
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
Frontier Force when on patrol followed the water-courses
shown as Shaib Tarais and Shaib Thaniyya on the 1918 map, and passed in
doing so to the east of the line D-E on that map, and so through Saudi Arabian
territory. His Majesty’s Minister at Jedda took the view that this protest
both increased the necessity for a clarification of the frontiers and provided an
opportunity for suggesting the necessary steps to the Saudi Arabian Government.
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The file contains papers mainly relating to the proposed demarcation of the frontier between Iraq and Saudi Arabia, including the issue of the western termination point of the Saudi-Iraq frontier, at the meeting-point of Saudi, Iraqi and Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan territory.
The papers largely consist of correspondence between the following:
- HM Ambassador to Iraq (Maurice Peterson, Sir Basil Newton) and the Foreign Office (including the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs: Viscount Halifax, Edward Frederick Lindley Wood).
- The Foreign Minister of Saudi Arabia and the Foreign Minister of Iraq.
- The India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and the Foreign Office.
The file also includes a Foreign Office memorandum entitled ‘The Frontiers between Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan and Nejd and Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan and the Hejaz’, which includes a map (see IOR/L/PS/12/2897, f 29).
The file includes a divider, which gives lists of correspondence references contained in the file by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
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- 1 file (53 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 56; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 2-55; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled.
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