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Coll 5/55(3)(S) ‘Afghanistan: Supply of General Purpose & Trainer Aircraft by H.M.G. (Replacement of Hinds)’ [‎106r] (211/809)

The record is made up of 1 file (403 folios). It was created in 12 Mar 1943-8 Jun 1948. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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D. Air.P. rcquostcd E. 23 to take all necessary steps to ensure that 'che
contract satisfying; this requirement was placed with A. V. Roe as early as possible,
" 31 th rep;arc*, t ■) delivery it v/as aprcc--. at the meetinp that this should commence
at the rate of two sets per month in November, 1946, but subsequent to the meeting
DDO(ji) confirmed to Mr. Roberts, Air#P, 2(c), that he had ap;recd with DEE. 2, G/Cpt.
Eel; ate, that spares could con.iunce delivery in January, 1947, and the 102 sets to
be complete', by March, 1948.
Action DDC(A)
E. 23
Miscella neous Requirements - (Foreign Orde rs) The Chairraan next requested iir. Haynes,
Air,to state the known requirements to meet foreign orders, Mr. Haynes
replied teat the position was as follows:-
Somaililand Locust Spray aircraft 8
Indian Air Force 8
Indian State Servic 10
Indian Aviation advisory Board 2
Errypt 6
There had also been an enquiry for Ansons for Indian Princes, but no action
could be taken at this stayc as this had only been in the form of an enquiry.
It would appear, however, stated Mr. Haynes, that the Locust Spray Aircraft would
be a very urgent requremont and an early delivery during the first quarter of
March, 1947, is likely to be made, but the question of all for^irn orders was to be
discussed by the Bowater Committee when priority for all foreign orders would be
stated.
In view of a possible firm demand beiny made for the Somaililand Locust
requirement, delivery has been plannc to con once in January and finish in March,
this will of course be subject to priority boin;; yiven, but .EDO(A) has requested
that it is recorded that as far as t iO Air Ministry is concerned, diversion of the
aircraft during; ■che above period is not acceptable to them, this view is also
confirmed by Air,3(a) it will therefore be necessary for Air,4(b) to obtain a firm
decision on thu question of priority.
Action Air, 4(«6
Fi rm 1 s P. V, Orders Mr. Fiol in ;; stated thatA, Y, R.e’s had taken orders for a total
of 11 Ansons allocated as follows:-
+Smith's Instruments 1
India 5
Bdyian Conyo 2
Fi. Id Consolidated 1
A. V. Roe, Canada 1
Sc e, Bri;;ht, Be-ok 1
T/ith regard to the 5 for India, Mr, Ficldiny stated teat this had only been
made firm recently although d*. V. Roe's had accepted the order.
D. Air.P, raised the question with Mr. Fieldiny of V, Roc's accepting p. V.
orders without first consulting; Ministry of Supply, Mr. Fieldiny pointed out thr.t
he was of the opinion that his firm had not done this, the Chairman accordingly
pointed out to Mr. Fiedliny that it was necessary for him to record in the minute:
the Department's objection to A. V. Roe's continuing acceptin'; such orders when
RAF. demands were not boiny: met.
Mr. Fieldiny later confitmed that he ho/d yiven instructions for the Indian
order to be hold in abeyance until the position improved, and there was a better
possibility of introducing the delivery of those aircraft into his production line

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The file documents the replacement of the Hawker Hind aircraft – used by the Afghan Air Force since 1937 – with Avro Ansons in 1948. The selection process being the result of a long search from 1943 to 1946 for a suitable replacement. The file contains correspondence documenting the search for suitable British aircraft – both new and second hand; the search for suitable aircraft was complicated by wartime conditions and the Afghan Government's unusual requirements. Some of the other aircraft considered were as follows:

  • the Boulton Paul Defiant
  • the de Havilland Dominie, Dove, and Tiger Moth
  • the Fairey Swordfish
  • the Hawker Audax, Hart, and Hurricane
  • the Miles Master
  • the Westland Lysander

The correspondence in the file also partly documents the process of ordering the Avro Ansons including: arrangements for payment for the aircraft, arrangements for shipping the aircraft, details respecting the required specification, and the production schedule for the aircraft. The file also includes minutes from inter-departmental meetings held to discuss post-war supply difficulties with the Avro Anson aircraft.

The main correspondents are officials from various government departments as follows: the Air Ministry, the Foreign Office, the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. (the Commonwealth Relations Office from August 1947), and the Ministry of Supply. Other key correspondents include HM Minister at Kabul (Francis Verner Wylie and Giles Frederick Squire) and officials from the External Affairs Department of the Government of India.

A few cuttings from magazines can be found within the file:

  • A page from Flight , 19 July 1945, which inclludes an advertisement for the De Havilland Rapide (folio 261r) and Field Aviation Services (folio 261v).
  • The Aeroplane , 24 March 1944, which includes a photograph of a two-seater Hawker Hurricane in Russia (folio 291v).

The file includes a divider which gives a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.

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1 file (403 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 404; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.

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Coll 5/55(3)(S) ‘Afghanistan: Supply of General Purpose & Trainer Aircraft by H.M.G. (Replacement of Hinds)’ [‎106r] (211/809), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/2012, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100044484989.0x00000c> [accessed 6 October 2024]

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