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Coll 6/16 'Future of: Royal Family. Probable happenings on the death of Ibn Saud.' [‎178v] (357/440)

The record is made up of 1 file (218 folios). It was created in 30 Sep 1931-7 Oct 1949. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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next day with equal piety and at even greater length. Both King and heir are
all for Islam in this correspondence, but its most interesting feature, in the present
connexion, is a passage near 4 the end of the King’s telegram, echoed in the Amir’s
reply. It was, “ People will perform the Baya to you in the Hejaz on Monday.
Your brother Feisal will accept the Baya on your behalf. He as well as the
members of the family will go to your side to convey to you the Baya of the people
of the Hejaz, and in order to perform the Baya with you on their own behalf.”
5. All these proceedings and others of a minor nature which I have not
mentioned doubtless kept statesmen in Mecca very busy. It was not until the
18th May that the Ministry for Foreign Affairs addressed a communication to the
foreign representatives, which took the form of a third person note, forwarding
the text of the first communique. Before I had got off the congratulations
authorised in your telegram No. 62 of the 16th May, I received a further com
munication, a translation^) of which I enclose, together with a copy of my
reply, f) It may be of interest to add that the Soviet Minister was present at the
ceremonies in Mecca; and that my Dutch colleague, who rushed in with
congratulations on seeing the first communique in the press, received a reply in
which the Amir Saud spoke of his desire to devote himself to the interests of
Moslems and Arabs, but said nothing about foreign relations.
6. I have dealt somewhat minutely with certain legal aspects of the
designation of the heir apparent, not only because of their constitutional interest,
but also because there is a political side to the anxiety shown to commit the people
of the Hejaz to acceptance of the measure, independently of the steps which have
certainly been taken in Nejd to ensure the consent of theologians there and* tribal
chiefs. Much erudition might be expended on the historical traditions which
have been followed. I will not trouble you with any long disquisition on a subject
for which my knowledge does not suffice, but it may be of interest to add short
notes on three questions, viz.
f (h) Whether it is in accordance with the strictest Islamic doctrine that a
ruler should designate his heir during his lifetime;
(b) whether an heir, if selected, can properly receive Baya before the ruler-
ship falls vacant; and
' (c) whether Baya is in its essence a religious act or even an act appropriate
only to a successor to the Caliphate or Imamate of Islam.
i 7. As regards (a), I understand that there is ample precedent for the
CK designation of a future heir, even though it be admitted that in pure theory his
accession must be ratified by some form of election or acceptance when it takes
. place. Indeed, as you are aware, many Moslem dynasties have been and are
- / carried on in accordance with rules difficult to distinguish from rules of succession
of the kind common in Europe. I cannot resist the comment that, so far as I know,
the first well-authenticated designation of an heir, or at any rate of a relative as
heir, was when the Caliph Muawiya, that Muawiya who lifted his hand against
the Hashimites, provided for the succession of his son Yezid.
8. As regards (b), I believe that there are precedents for this also. I think
Mr. Philby told me, before he left, that there had been at least one in the history
of the House of Baud. However alien to our own conceptions it may be that fealty
should be sworn to one who remains a subject, this procedure has an undoubted
significance for Moslems, as the oath is binding from the moment it is taken and
entails strong sanctions, which may be summed up by saying that any subsequent
violation makes the violator an outlaw and the shedding of his blood lawful.
9. As regards (c), there is no doubt that, however much Islamic countries
may have adopted in practice European ideas of State organisation and
sovereignty, there is always an underlying theory that temporal power is in
principle the concomitant of a religious position. It is already suggested that in
the present case Ibn Saud aims at perpetuating a religious position, which in
Nejd counts for more than his kingship, and which is comparable to, though not
described as, a Caliphate. As against this, you will note that the present Baya
has express reference to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Even the Imam of the
Wahhabis has to ada,pt himself to practical conditions, and what Ibn Baud has
done has been to endeavour to consolidate his regime in that kingdom, perhaps
( x ) Not printed.

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This file relates to Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] and the future of Arabia in the event of his death.

The file largely consists of copies of Foreign Office correspondence, which have been forwarded by the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to the Under-Secretary of State for India. Also included are copies of correspondence addressed to the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and the Government of India's Foreign and Political Department by the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. (Lieutenant-Colonel Trenchard Craven William Fowle, succeeded by Lieutenant-Colonel Charles Geoffrey Prior).

The correspondence begins with the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. 's response to the Foreign Secretary to the Government of India's remark that British influence in the Middle East seems largely to depend on the life of one man: Ibn Saud.

Related matters discussed in the correspondence include the following:

  • The effect that Ibn Saud's death, or fall from power, might have on Kuwait.
  • The designation of Amir Saud [Sa‘ūd bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd] as Ibn Saud's heir apparent in 1933.
  • Rumours of tense relations between Amir Saud and his brother Feisal [Faisal bin Abdulaziz Al Sa'ud].
  • Arab public opinion on Ibn Saud, following the Saudi-Yemeni war.
  • Reports of Ibn Saud and Amir Saud having been attacked by would-be assassins in Mecca in 1935.
  • Amir Saud's visit to India for medical treatment in 1940.
  • Reports of the arrest of ninety persons suspected of being involved in a plot to assassinate Ibn Saud in 1940.

Other prominent correspondents include the following: the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Kuwait (Harold Richard Patrick Dickson, succeeded by Gerald Simpson de Gaury); the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain (Hugh Weightman); the British Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan; Sir Reader William Bullard; Hugh Stonehewer Bird); His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires, Jedda (Albert Spencer Calvert); officials of the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , the Foreign Office, the Colonial Office, and the Government of India's External Affairs Department.

In addition to correspondence the file includes the following:

The file includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.

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1 file (218 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence for this description commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 219; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An external leather cover wraps around the documents and the front inside of this cover has been foliated as folio 1. A previous foliation sequence, which is present between ff 2-218 and is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.

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