Coll 6/16 'Future of: Royal Family. Probable happenings on the death of Ibn Saud.' [127v] (255/440)
The record is made up of 1 file (218 folios). It was created in 30 Sep 1931-7 Oct 1949. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
Transcription
This transcription is created automatically. It may contain errors.
2
\ they had come from some wicked place outside the Yemen to create disturbance,
1 All the same sentiments run through a long telegram from the Yemeni Minister
l for Foreign Affairs to Fuad Bey Hamza, in reply to a telegram from the latter,
(which, perhaps significantly, has not been published. Qadhi Baghib was even
1 more eloquent than his master and supported what he said by curse and oath.
5. The same number of the Vmm-al-Qura includes, in a short general
account of this year’s pilgrimage, the reply given by the King to those who offered
him their congratulations at Mina. This is of less interest than the interview
mentioned in paragraph 5 of my despatch under reference, tvhich also appeared.
In the interview the King explained why he had resisted the suggestions Of his
own people that he should visit foreign lands. He expressed his cautiousness, as
a simple Bedouin, unfamiliar with tricks of language, in regard to journalists,
who Were accustomed to manipulate it. He was, however, ready to answer any
questions. Three of the questions put to His Majesty related to the attempt on
his life. Speaking of it generally, he convicted his assailants of irreligion. He
caring only for the Unity and the protection of what he possessed. He had been
saved by God, but his first concern had been the safety of the pilgrims. He
described the measures he had taken to close the doors of the Haram and to prevent
bloodshed therein, after which he had completed the circumambulation of the
Kaaba and returned to Mina. Replying to a second question regarding the
investigation and the position Of the Imam Yahya in the matter, the King
expressed his conviction that the Imam had had nothing to do with it, as “ the
man was not devoid Of religion ” and their relations were excellent. He left it to
the Ministry for Foreign Affairs to inform his interlocutors regarding the
enquiries which had been made. His Majesty returned a more guarded reply to a
third question about the suggestion that Seif-al-Islam Ahmad had been respon
sible for the affair. There was much talk, he said in effect, about many persons
and he could not go by rumours. He Went on to speak of a presentiment ne had
had at Arafat, how he had thought of means to deal with and arrest an assailant,
if one should mingle with the crowd, and how he had then, confiding in God, let
it pass from his mind. He went on to say more about the Unity and the purity
of the belief of the people of Nejd, who took their stand on the Koran and
tradition, as expounded by the four Imams.
6. The King replied to various other questions, which bore less directly on
the subject of the present despatch. As his utterances, except as regards
Palestine, were not of sufficient importance to report separately, I may as well
sum them up briefly here as follows:—
(a) He was favourably impressed by the sympathy shown by the Egyptians*
Who were brethren and with whom there was no* cause for dispute.
(b) On the Iraqi journalists expressing pleasure at what he had said to the
party of Iraqi boy scouts, the King affirmed solidarity with Iraq.
(c) I am reporting separately His Majesty’s remarks about Palestine;
(d) Replying to an expression of Moroccan sympathy with himself and his
people, the King said that many of the tribes of Morocco were of Nejdi
origin and that Arabs were all of one race.
7. The Saut-ut-Hejaz of the 25th March adds nothing of interest to the
above, except a reference to a sympathetic telegram received by it from an
Egyptian lady named Labida Ahmad, who had played a certain role in the past in
Ibn Baud’s entourage.
8. I am sending copies of this despatch to the Government of India,
Bagdad, Jerusalem* Bushire, Aden and Cairo;
I have, &e.
ANDREW RYAN.
About this item
- Content
This file relates to Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] and the future of Arabia in the event of his death.
The file largely consists of copies of Foreign Office correspondence, which have been forwarded by the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to the Under-Secretary of State for India. Also included are copies of correspondence addressed to the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and the Government of India's Foreign and Political Department by the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. (Lieutenant-Colonel Trenchard Craven William Fowle, succeeded by Lieutenant-Colonel Charles Geoffrey Prior).
The correspondence begins with the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. 's response to the Foreign Secretary to the Government of India's remark that British influence in the Middle East seems largely to depend on the life of one man: Ibn Saud.
Related matters discussed in the correspondence include the following:
- The effect that Ibn Saud's death, or fall from power, might have on Kuwait.
- The designation of Amir Saud [Sa‘ūd bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd] as Ibn Saud's heir apparent in 1933.
- Rumours of tense relations between Amir Saud and his brother Feisal [Faisal bin Abdulaziz Al Sa'ud].
- Arab public opinion on Ibn Saud, following the Saudi-Yemeni war.
- Reports of Ibn Saud and Amir Saud having been attacked by would-be assassins in Mecca in 1935.
- Amir Saud's visit to India for medical treatment in 1940.
- Reports of the arrest of ninety persons suspected of being involved in a plot to assassinate Ibn Saud in 1940.
Other prominent correspondents include the following: the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Kuwait (Harold Richard Patrick Dickson, succeeded by Gerald Simpson de Gaury); the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain (Hugh Weightman); the British Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan; Sir Reader William Bullard; Hugh Stonehewer Bird); His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires, Jedda (Albert Spencer Calvert); officials of the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , the Foreign Office, the Colonial Office, and the Government of India's External Affairs Department.
In addition to correspondence the file includes the following:
- A report by the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. entitled 'The Future of Arabia', which discusses the present position of Ibn Saud and how Arabia might look without him.
- Extracts from Kuwait intelligence summaries.
- A copy of a report produced in 1937 by the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. at Kuwait, Gerald Simpson de Gaury, on the history of the Shammar tribe and the Ibn Rashid [Āl Rashīd] family, which includes as enclosures a table of the Shammar confederation and a genealogical table of the Al Rashid family, both of which are printed in Arabic and English.
- A copy of a report, produced in 1938 by de Gaury, on the 'Anaza [‘Aniza] tribe, which includes a tribal table of the tribe.
The file includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.
- Extent and format
- 1 file (218 folios)
- Arrangement
The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
- Physical characteristics
Foliation: the foliation sequence for this description commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 219; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An external leather cover wraps around the documents and the front inside of this cover has been foliated as folio 1. A previous foliation sequence, which is present between ff 2-218 and is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
- Written in
- English and Arabic in Latin and Arabic script View the complete information for this record
Use and share this item
- Share this item
Coll 6/16 'Future of: Royal Family. Probable happenings on the death of Ibn Saud.' [127v] (255/440), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/2082, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100038375480.0x000038> [accessed 4 June 2026]
https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100038375480.0x000038
Copy and paste the code below into your web page where you would like to embed the image.
<meta charset="utf-8"><a href="https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100038375480.0x000038">Coll 6/16 'Future of: Royal Family. Probable happenings on the death of Ibn Saud.' [‎127v] (255/440)</a> <a href="https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100038375480.0x000038"> <img src="https://iiif.qdl.qa/iiif/images/81055/vdc_100000000555.0x00026c/IOR_L_PS_12_2082_0265.jp2/full/!280,240/0/default.jpg" alt="" /> </a>
This record has a IIIF manifest available as follows. If you have a compatible viewer you can drag the icon to load it.https://www.qdl.qa/en/iiif/81055/vdc_100000000555.0x00026c/manifestOpen in Universal viewerOpen in Mirador viewerMore options for embedding images
Copyright: How to use this content
- Reference
- IOR/L/PS/12/2082
- Title
- Coll 6/16 'Future of: Royal Family. Probable happenings on the death of Ibn Saud.'
- Pages
- front, front-i, 2r:115v, 117r:124v, 126r:130v, 137r:140v, 142r:172v, 174r:179v, 181r:181v, 183r:219v, back
- Author
- East India Company, the Board of Control, the India Office, or other British Government Department
- Usage terms
- Open Government Licence
![Coll 6/16 'Future of: Royal Family. Probable happenings on the death of Ibn Saud.' [‎127v] (255/440) Coll 6/16 'Future of: Royal Family. Probable happenings on the death of Ibn Saud.' [‎127v] (255/440)](https://iiif.qdl.qa/iiif/images/81055/vdc_100000000555.0x00026c/IOR_L_PS_12_2082_0265.jp2/full/!1200,1200/0/default.jpg)