![Coll 6/9 'Jeddah Reports Jany 1931–' [‎375v] (751/802)](https://iiif.qdl.qa/iiif/images/81055/vdc_100000000555.0x000263/IOR_L_PS_12_2073_0753.jp2/full/!1200,1200/0/default.jpg "Coll 6/9 'Jeddah Reports Jany 1931–' [‎375v] (751/802)")
Coll 6/9 'Jeddah Reports Jany 1931–' [375v] (751/802)
The record is made up of 1 file (399 folios). It was created in 1 Jul 1931-31 Mar 1938. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
Transcription
This transcription is created automatically. It may contain errors.
37a. Nothing is definitely known in Jedda as to the position between
Ibn Sand and the Imam Yahya. A member of the Legation staff, who is
sometimes well informed, assures Sir A. Ryan (a) that there is some sort of an
understanding in the nature of a provisional treaty which is renewed annually,
and (b) that two persons who had been sent to Asir on Ibn Saud's business there
proceeded in May to the Yemen to treat with the Imam. This information is
reproduced with reserve. 1
38. There appears to have been some activity in the closely-connected
Senussi and Idrisi circles in Mecca. The following reports came to the notice of
the Legation at the end of June, but should be taken with reserve, especially
the last: —
(a) It is said that Marghani-al-Idrisi, who came from Egypt to Mecca some
time ago, married in June a daughter of Sayyid Ahmed-es-Senussi.
(b) It is said that Sayyid Ali-al-Idrisi, who formerly ruled for a short time
in Asir, recently left for that country, possibly on a mission from
Ibn Saud.
(c) It is affirmed positively, though it seems most improbable, that Sayyid
Hassan-al-Idrisi, the shadow-ruler of Asir, visited Mecca for three
days in the latter part of June.
III.— Relations with States outside Arabia.
British Empire.
39. The easier tone of the correspondence regarding the
Transjordan
Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan
frontier during the period under review produced a general feeling of detente all
the more marked as no new questions of a seriously contentious nature arose.
Ibn Saud’s realisation of his internal difficulties was a contributory cause as his
instinct is to turn to Great Britain in time of trouble. He had unfortunately
got it well into his head that His Majesty’s Minister was largely responsible for
the earlier tension, and had inspired rather than merely carried out the rigorous
policy of His Majesty’s Government. Fuad Bey Hamza aspired to the role of
mediator between the King and Great Britain. He was readier than His Majesty
to believe that Sir A. Ryan was not ill-disposed, or, if ill-disposed, could be
converted and put to good use.
40. All these factors produced a definite demonstration on the occasion of
the King’s visit to Jedda in June. In two long conversations on the 13th and
16th June Fuad Bey urged the strong desire of the King for a good understanding
with His Majesty’s Government on all points. The King himself developed the
same thesis in a two hours’ audience on the 17th June. The gist of all these
conversations was that the King looked to his old friend Great Britain for
support, and, if supported, would do anything asked of him. He requested
Sir A. Ryan’s assistance in arriving at a clear understanding of a fundamental
kind. He referred to possible future changes in an Arabia which at present gave
no cause for anxiety, hinting at a thesis which Fuad Bey had stated more plainly,
viz that Ibn Saud could offer a true and useful friendship, whereas there could
be no real friendship between Great Britain and Hashimite-ruled countries, where
His Majesty’s Government must strive to maintain a privileged position. He
spoke of his desire to use what influence he had elsewhere in a sense favourable
to Llis Majesty’s Government. He was not seeking, he said, to drive a bargain,
but he did want to know where he stood with His Majesty’s Government.
41 The King's desire for a good understanding with His Majesty’s
Government was obviously sincere, if not as disinterested as might have been
inferred from his professions of pure friendship. It was equally obvious that
both he and Fuad Bey were thinking much of their financial difficulties.
Fuad Bey hinted openly on the 13th June at the possibility of financial assistance.
The King confined himself to a request for help in enlisting the services of a
British bank (see paragraph 4). „ L .,
42 Sir A. Ryan undertook to convey all these ideas and suggestions
faithfully to His Majesty’s Government. He developed his personal views at
some length, but as non-committally as possible, with the object of showing
sympathetic’interest and goodwill, without encouraging fantastic hopes. Full
records of the conversations were sent home on the 20th June.
About this item
- Content
This file consists almost entirely of copies (forwarded by the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to the Under-Secretary of State for India) of printed reports sent either by the His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan, succeeded by Sir Reader William Bullard), or, in the Minister's absence, by His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires (Cecil Gervase Hope Gill, succeeded by Albert Spencer Calvert), to the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. Most of the reports cover a two-month period and are prefaced by a table of contents. The reports discuss a number of matters relating to the Kingdom of the Hejaz and Nejd (later Saudi Arabia), including internal affairs, frontier questions, foreign relations, the Hajj, and slavery.
The file includes a divider, which gives a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
- Extent and format
- 1 file (399 folios)
- Arrangement
The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the volume.
- Physical characteristics
Foliation: the foliation sequence commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 400; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. The leather cover wraps around the documents; the back of the cover has not been foliated.
A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
- Written in
- English in Latin script View the complete information for this record
Use and share this item
- Share this item
Coll 6/9 'Jeddah Reports Jany 1931–' [375v] (751/802), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/2073, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100037351184.0x000099> [accessed 3 April 2025]
https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100037351184.0x000099
Copy and paste the code below into your web page where you would like to embed the image.
<meta charset="utf-8"><a href="https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100037351184.0x000099">Coll 6/9 'Jeddah Reports Jany 1931–' [‎375v] (751/802)</a> <a href="https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100037351184.0x000099"> <img src="https://iiif.qdl.qa/iiif/images/81055/vdc_100000000555.0x000263/IOR_L_PS_12_2073_0753.jp2/full/!280,240/0/default.jpg" alt="" /> </a>
This record has a IIIF manifest available as follows. If you have a compatible viewer you can drag the icon to load it.https://www.qdl.qa/en/iiif/81055/vdc_100000000555.0x000263/manifestOpen in Universal viewerOpen in Mirador viewerMore options for embedding images
Copyright: How to use this content
- Reference
- IOR/L/PS/12/2073
- Title
- Coll 6/9 'Jeddah Reports Jany 1931–'
- Pages
- front, front-i, 2r:47r, 48r, 49r:61r, 62r:89r, 91r:334r, 336r:398v, 400r:400v, back
- Author
- East India Company, the Board of Control, the India Office, or other British Government Department
- Usage terms
- Open Government Licence