Coll 5/5 ‘Arabia: Hejaz Air Force; Recruitment of personnel by HMG; Instruction of Hejazi pilots’ [190r] (381/703)
The record is made up of 1 file (350 folios). It was created in 9 Mar 1931-14 Apr 1939. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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Record of meeting with FUAD BLY tiAMZA regarding
air mattera, held at the Foreign
Office at 10.15 a.m. on 15th May.
It hod been arranged that Fned Bey Hamza should meet
Group-Captain Peirae of the Air Ministry for an informal
conversation regarding the question of the provision of
emergency landing grounds on the Hose coast. Mr. Rendel,
at the beginning of the interview, said that it was agreed
that the conversation should be informal and without
commitment on either side.
After a discussion on various other questions, Fuad
Bey Hamza said that he would like to make a purely
personal suggestion that H.M.Government should reconsider
their recent decision on the subject of assisting the
Hejaz and Nejd Government in the development of their Air
Force.
The matter was discussed, and it was agreed that the
principal difficulties were:
(1) Financial; the difficulty of finding a competent
personnel at the salaries offered;
(2) The difficulty connected with the inability of
H.M.Government to agree to ^ritiah subjects being employed
to pilot Hejaz Nejd aeroplanes in the case of hostilities
against a third country and in the case of operations
fjj against rebels; end
(3) The language difficulty.
Finally, Fuad Buy asked that H.M.Government should
consider again the possibility of sending a JR. A. F. mission
to....
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The file covers the subject of the development of aviation in Hejaz (Saudi Arabia from 1932), and requests made to the British Government for assistance in the development of an air force.
The earliest papers (1931) deal with a crisis in the Hejaz Air Force, in which the Hejaz Government desired to replace three British subjects — Mr North, Mr Morris, and Mr Lowe — with new British recruits under amended terms and conditions. The file covers some of the consequences resulting from the failure to reach an agreement on this issue.
Much of the rest of the file focuses on various proposals for providing assistance to the Hejaz (later Saudi) Government such as: the provision of a British Air Mission, the appointment of a Muslim Air Adviser (from either Egypt, Iraq, or India), the supply of aircraft and equipment, and various suggestions for training pilots and mechanics at Royal Air Force institutions. These proposals are discussed in terms of their practicality, and their financial and political feasibility.
The file also contains some discussion related to the following: a proposal from Misr Airwork for a demonstration of the Avro 626 to the Hejaz Government; a Turkish military mission in Saudi Arabia; an Italian Air Mission to Saudi Arabia; and a proposal to supply arms and ammunition to Saudi Arabia. It also has extracts from The Times newspaper dated 27 April 1933 (folio 143) and 12 February 1937 (folio 124); The Evening Standard dated 25 November 1931 (folio 207); and an extract from the Umm-al-Qura dated 16 September 1932 (folio 151).
The main correspondents are as follows: HM Minister at Jeddah (Andrew Ryan and Reader William Bullard), HM Chargé d’Affaires at Jeddah (Cecil Gervase Hope-Gill), officials at the Air Ministry, and officials at the Foreign Office. Much of the file consists of correspondence forwarded from the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to the Under-Secretary of State for India, in order to inform India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. officials of developments in Arabia.
The file includes a divider which gives a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
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- 1 file (350 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1 and terminates at the last folio with 350; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located at the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. The file contains the following foliation anomalies: f 1, and f 1A.
An additional foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
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- Coll 5/5 ‘Arabia: Hejaz Air Force; Recruitment of personnel by HMG; Instruction of Hejazi pilots’
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- front, front-i, 1ar:1av, 2r:34v, 36r:75v, 77r:123v, 125r:132v, 135r:142v, 144r:152v, 154r:206v, 208r:235v, 239r:256v, 258r:305v, 308r:343v, 345r:350v, back
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