'The Seven Independent Arabian States [Yemen, ‘Asir, Hijaz, Najd, Kuwait, Jabal Shammar and al-Jawf]' [264v] (528/680)
The record is made up of 1 file (10 folios). It was created in May 1935. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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I should be glad to receive your view.s in order that this question may be settled
as early as possible.
2. Can you also state what approximate date would be convenient for conference
from Burma Government's point of view and who representatives from Burma will
be (see my telegram 10th August, No. 197^) ? {^So. <0).
No. 84.
P.Z. 5965/34.
Telegram from Government of Burma to Government of India,
dated ZOth September 1934.
{Repeated to Secretary of State for India.)
137. Secretary of State's telegrams 2089 (No. 82) and 2091 (No. 81), 29th August,
and your telegram of the 17th instant, 1767 (No. 77). Regret delay in replying.
2. Boundary in 1894 Convention was based on Scott's reports. There can be
no doubt that Scott's delimitation gave effect to conventional boundary and the
British Government have told China that they regard it as the boundary settled
by the Convention to which China was co-signatory. Boundary question has now
passed beyond an inter-Provincial question and has become an international issue,
and the Governor recognises that considerations will enter in which are outside the
Local Government's sphere and cognisance.
But from experience in Burma of Chinese official methods, Governor is con
vinced of the danger of allowing China to repudiate the Convention and getting
her way by the methods which she has pursued in regard to this boundary. Such
a result would involve disaster, loss of prestige, and lead to repetition of the same
tactics and, from local point of view, would have reactions all along the frontier
which w r ould make very difficult relations with Chinese frontier officials, which, as
it is, are not easy. Governor is therefore stongly opposed to any offer to China of
ex gratia concessions to induce her to keep her bond. He considers that inter
change of concessions should De on mutual basis of compromise emphasised in
Chinese Vice-Minister for Foreign Affairs' interview with Teichman, 9th August
(N T o. 73), and in Chinese Foreign Ministry Note of 9th August.
3. Governor considers approach suggested by Teichman is most promising and
suggests that, in order to establish basis for further negotiations, first efforts of the
conference should be to get agreement to a Joint Boundary Commission to ascertain
on the ground and fix on maps, line resulting from application of the 1894
Convention. In view of the failure of the 1900 Boundary Commission and of the
Chinese Government's present attitude, Governor suggests that the Chinese Govern
ment should, if possible, be induced to agree to appointment by the League of
Nations of Third Boundary Commissioner, b3 T whose decision both parties should
be bound in case of differences.
Governor regards this as very important, as, if agreement can be reached to have
authoritative Boundary Commission on the lines suggested, there is prospect of
obtaining boundary which would command international acceptance. Governor
regards it as impossible to consider concessions in respect to Wa States boundary
till the basis for concession has been ascertained, and suggests that consideration of
mutual concessions to be made should be subsequent to the definite fixation of the
Convention boundary line. Governor sees no objection to agreeing now to
subsequent negotiations for suitable adjustment, based on the spirit of mutual
compromise, if this would help to induce Chinese Government to agree to fixation
of boundary by Commission on the lines suggested above.
4. Only mutual concessions which the Governor can think of would be to
obtain the Chinese Government's acceptance of de facto boundary, north of latitude
25° 35' , in exchange for concessions in Wa States to cover the Chinese encroach
ments. Admittedly the Scott Line is the best, in fact, only really satisfactory
boundary. Salween was rejected as the boundary in 1889 and it is impossible
now to cede to China Panglong, Yungpang and other friendly States. Liuchen
Line is not boundary, but merely impalpable line which would make administration
impossible. It is also practically the line of the forged Hsueh map indignantly
repudiated by us in 1900.
Concessions offered and subsequently withdrawn by Scott seem unlikely to be
considered sufficient, and there are obvious objections to excluding the portions of
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This confidential memorandum, printed by the Foreign Office in May 1935 is a report by William John Childs concerning the seven independent Arabian states or autonomous areas. The report contains an introduction that states that the 'purpose of the paper is to give a brief outline each of the seven independent Arabian states', listed on folio 316, 'at the time of the Arab rising against the Turks in June 1916'.
The report is divided into sections covering each state as follows:
- 'The Imamate of Yemen ruled by Imam Yahya [Yaḥyá Muḥammad Ḥamīd al-Dīn]' (folio 316);
- 'The Principate of Asir ruled by the Idrisi [Sayyid Muḥammad bin ‘Alī al-Idrīsi]' (folios 316-317);
- 'The Emirate of Mecca (or the Hejaz) ruled by Husein [Ḥusayn bin ‘Alī al-Hāshimī], Emir and Sherif of Mecca' (folios 317-319);
- 'Emirate of Nejd [Najd] ruled by Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd], Emir of Riyadh' (folios 319-323);
- 'The Sheikhdom of Koweit [Kuwait] ruled by the Sheikh of Koweit [Mubārak bin Ṣabāḥ]' (folio 323v);
- 'The Emirate of Jebel Shammar [Jabal Shammar] (or Hail [Ḥā’il]) ruled by the Emir of Hail [Sa‘ūd bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Rashīd]' (folios 323-324)
- 'Jauf-el-Amir [Jawf al-Amīr, under the rule of Nūrī bin Sha‘lān]' (folio 324v).
A footnote on folio 316 records: 'This memorandum was prepared by the late Mr. William John Childs and found among his papers. A few modifications and additions have been made to bring it up to date'.
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Foliation: The foliation for this description commences at folio 315, and terminates at folio 325, as it is part of a larger physical volume; these numbers are written in pencil, a re circles, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is also present in parallel between folios 4-327; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled, and can be found in the same position as the main sequence.
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- front, front-i, 2r:315v, 310r, 316v:339v, back-i, back
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