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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [324r] (647/691)
The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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"I have the honour to inform you that the Turkish Steamer, ^
^Karadaniz" arrived in the Bombay Harbour on the 19th instant.
From the report of the Captain I learn that as the steamer was
running only between Turkish -Ports the Ship’s Register is left
behind at Constantinople.
"The captain says that he has written to Constantinople ask
ing for it. In the meantime I have the honour to request that
S
you will be-good enough to take the Port Due£ according to he
Lloyds Register in order to allow the steamer to be entered •
in the Customs House for Inward and Outward clearance.
" "As soon as the Ship's Register arrives it will be sent
for inspection."
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5. On the 28th August 1914 the
Government of Bombay
From c. 1668-1858, the East India Company’s administration in the city of Bombay [Mumbai] and western India. From 1858-1947, a subdivision of the British Raj. It was responsible for British relations with the Gulf and Red Sea regions.
received
I
a telegram from the Government of India, Marine Department,
No.500-H, dated the 27th August 1914, st*ting that (i) it was
understood hat Persia had purchased the Turkish Steamer "Kara
Deniz" then lying in Bombay and that a Persian protection cer
tificate was being applied for; (ii) that in view of the possible
contingency of war breakin'" out with Turkey before the matter
was carried through, an eye should be kept on the vessel, and
if any formality such as need to deliberate upon port autho
rities of^ the change of flag had to be gone through by the
Persian Cons ilate before the transfer was a fait accompli vis a
via the British Port authorities, matters should be delayed,
if possible, for a few days in the restricting course of routine.
6. On the 29th August 1914 a telegram from the Government of
India, Marine Department, was received asking for as complete
particulars as possible regarding the "Kara Deniz" with a view
to her identification. The Port Officer was requested to reply
to the Government of India direct in the matter.
7. On the 2nd September 1914 the
Government of Bombay
From c. 1668-1858, the East India Company’s administration in the city of Bombay [Mumbai] and western India. From 1858-1947, a subdivision of the British Raj. It was responsible for British relations with the Gulf and Red Sea regions.
, Poli
tical Department, replied to the Government of India, Marine
Department, with reference to their letter Ho-H-500, dated the
27th August 1914, referred to above, stating : -
(i) that in accord_ance with the ordinary procedure in the
case of a change of ownership the owners or agents
of a foreign vessel lying in Bombay harbour had to
inform the Collector of Customs, Bombay and the Port
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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.
The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.
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- Ottoman Consul General
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