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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎97v] (194/691)

The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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Sykes, J. S., Manchester—
Peace : (Nil). War : £47,000.
(Claim made on behalf of unnamed underwriters.)
Times Dharwar and Co., London—
Peace : 2,365 krans and £120 17s. \\d. War : (Nil).
Weir, A., and Co., London—
Peace: 47,500 krans. War: (Nil).
Ziegler and Co.. Manchester—
Peace : 539,800 krans and £231 12s. Od. War : 1,748,927 krans and
£3.497 13s. tid.
(There are large additions of interest in a number of these claims.)
H. RITCHIE.
December 31, 1934.
Appendix 1.
Sir R. Hoare to Sir John Simon.
(No. 69.)
Sir, Tehran, February 18, 1933.
AS arranged in private correspondence with your Department (see my letter
of the 31st December, 1932, to Mr. Rendel), I have the honour to transmit
herewith lists of the various British claims outstanding against the Persian
Government. It will be remembered that in 1923 a previous list of claims was
transmitted to your Department under cover of Sir P. Loraine’s despatch No. 308
of the 11th July of that year.
2. The claims dossiers themselves will be packed in a box, which will be
taken to Bagdad by the ordinary fortnightly courier. His Majesty’s Embassy
have been requested to arrange onward transmission across the desert to Beirut
and thence to London. The box will be addressed to the Librarian, the
Foreign Office.
3. A copy of this despatch accompanies the claims, and to each bundle or
section is attached a copy of the covering list.
4. Some explanation is perhaps needed of the method that has been adopted
in arranging the claims now transmitted. The claims are in two main classes,
(a) “ consulate ” claims, (b) “ Tehran ” claims.
5. As regards the former, it will suffice if I draw attention to the circular( A )
addressed to all His Majesty’s consular officers in Persia in 1924. This circular
explains the method followed at almost all consular posts, the only exceptions
being noted and explained in Annex II to this despatch.
6. The claims on the “ Tehran ” list were, however, not dealt with in the
same manner. The “ consulate ” claims are in almost every case provided with
the necessary affidavits and declarations, but, owing to pressure of work and the
large number of claims involved, it proved impossible to follow the same method
in regard to the Tehran claims. In 1925-26, however, Mr. J. P. G. Finch, at
that time probationer vice-consul at the Legation, went through the archives of
the Legation and laboriously collected from the enormous number of dossiers
under review (many of them unindexed volumes containing masses of unrelated
papers) all possible documents bearing on the claims. These documents he
arranged in separate dossiers, one for each claim. These dossiers have now been
examined by Mr. Busk and Mr. Gamble; all unnecessary papers have been
removed from them, and in many cases additional papers have been added from
later archives. Moreover, various new claims have been added to the 1924 list,
originally compiled by Mr. Humphreys. The labour thus involved was consider
able, but the task of arranging the Tehran claims in dossiers would have been
quite impracticable with the available staff had it not been for the invaluable
work performed by Mr. Finch, whose labours in this connexion are deserving of
the highest praise. Mr. Busk and Mr. Gamble have, in addition, prepared the
covering lists to the “consulate ’’ claims, Shiraz having been the only post to
supply one, and checked the dossiers, and I am greatly indebted to them for the
time and trouble they have taken.
7. It is thus clear that, while the “ consulate ’’ claims are in most cases
fully supported by affidavits, the “ Tehran ’’ claims are not. Each “ Tehran ”
(*) No. 30 of July 29, 1924 : a copy formed Annex 1 to the despatch ; not printed.

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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.

The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).

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1 file (343 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.

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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎97v] (194/691), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/3501, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100066723403.0x0000c5> [accessed 5 April 2025]

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