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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎95v] (190/691)

The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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omission of these war-time claims from the scope of the agreement would,
however, reduce the totality of our claims from the provisional estimate, made in
paragraph 39, of 15,228,725 krans, £361,810, 240,305 rupees Indian silver coin also widely used in the Persian Gulf. and 6,962 40 dollars
to some 5,155,075 krans, £266,841, 181,700 rupees Indian silver coin also widely used in the Persian Gulf. and 6,962-40 dollars, apart
from additions of interest, from any further claims which may yet come to light,
and from any underwriters’ claims which may yet be made. It would also throw
us back largely upon pre-war claims, where the evidence furnished is the most
defective.
66 . The proposal to eliminate these war-time claims arising between the
4th August, 1914, and the 22nd February, 1921, will doubtless provoke repre
sentations from parties who suffered losses during that period, but our case
against the Persian Government to repair these war-time losses does not seem to
rest upon any very strong ground, for most, if not all, of them may be attributed,
either directly or indirectly, to enemy action in Persia ; while we seem to have
admitted (to some extent at any rate), in the note which Sir P. Cox addressed to
the Persian Government on the 9th August, 1919, that Persia was powerless to
defend her neutrality. Towards the evacuations of Persian towns by British
firms and communities who had remained in Persia during the disturbances and
disorders which then prevailed, the correspondence here shows that His Majesty’s
Government and the Government of India went to considerable expense on their
behalf to convey them elsewhere; and often, in the case of our own officials, who
had no option but to remain, to compensate them for the loss or suffering involved
in outrages to which they were subjected. Incidentally, we drew upon Persian
funds to repair some of these war-time losses; while a waiver of them will involve
a non-settlement of such amounts as His Majesty’s Government and the Govern
ment of India contributed. It seems possible, however, that there may remain
one or two cases in which our officials sustained losses of property for which they
might represent they had not been fully compensated.
67. Peace-Time and Contractual Claims —If war-time claims were thus
excluded, these will remain.( 3 ) The following occupy the foremost places :—
Persian Railway Syndicate: £202,207, with 7 per cent, compound
interest. The figure is that given in 1924. In 1933 they offered to take
£134,653 odd; their latest estimate in 1934 makes the figure £373,331 odd.
Persian Transport Company: £50,000; but earlier £75,900.
Quarantine medical officers in Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. : 69.967 • 10 rupees Indian silver coin also widely used in the Persian Gulf. and
16,814-60 krans. We seem to be in need of a detailed account of these
figures from the Government of India.
Sir Wolseley Haig : £4,807. In 1921 he informed our Legation he
would be satisfied with £2,500.
Mr. T. Casey : £1,200. (Our Legation comment in 1909 on this was*
“It seems enormous.”)
The above total £258,214, 16,814-60 krans and 69,967 10 rupees Indian silver coin also widely used in the Persian Gulf. , leaving for the
remaining claims under this head some £8,627, 5,138,260 krans, 111,732 rupees Indian silver coin also widely used in the Persian Gulf.
and 6,962-40 dollars, which is distributed over a great number of individual
claims for highway robberies, outrages of various kinds, losses in civil
disturbances, tribal raids, piracies, burglaries, &c. Among these is the large
and very doubtful one for 2,302,905 krans preferred by Messrs. Lynch or the
Persian Transport Company for the cost of running the steamship Shushan from
1902 to 1913, which seems to have little to rest on. If this claim were omitted as
likely of rejection, we have a total when all is included, for peace-time and
contractual claims, of some £266,841, 2,852,170 krans, 181,699 rupees Indian silver coin also widely used in the Persian Gulf. and
6,962 -40 dollars, which, however, in itself includes a sum of about 468,000 krans
claimed as interest by a Mr. Haycock on an original debt of some 100,000 krans
owing to him by the Persian authorities. Reduced to a sterling equivalent at
rates of 50 krans, 15 rupees Indian silver coin also widely used in the Persian Gulf. and 5 dollars to the £, the whole body of these
peace-time and contractual claims might be assumed to amount to at most some
£340,000, apart from further additions of interest claimed in some cases, which
there can be no certainty would be awarded by an arbitral tribunal in the absence
of any treaty provision on the subject of interest.
( s ) A short summary of these is given on pp. vii to xxii of the volume Legation Claims
immediately after the index. [This summary is printed below as Appendix 3.]

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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.

The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).

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1 file (343 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.

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