'File 73/7 I (D 19) Status of Kuwait & Baghdad Railway, and Anglo-Turkish negotiations 1911' [187r] (407/631)
The record is made up of 2 volumes (334 folios). It was created in 28 Jan 1911-19 Jan 1912. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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EASTERN DEPARTMENT [April 3.]
SECRET SERIES. S ection 2.
[12035] No. 1.
Sir G. Lowther to Sir Edward Grey.— (Received April 3.)
(No. 205.)
Sir, Constantinople, March 28, 1911,
WITH reference to my despatch No. 183, Confidential, of the 22nd March,
concerning the Bagdad Railway-Koweit, &c., negotiations, I have the honour to
enclose translation of an article by Hussein Djahid Bey, commenting on one in the
" Times " of the 23rd March. The idea underlying his remarks is to suggest that His
Majesty's Government and the Opposition do not see eye to eye on the questions at
issue, and that, while the former are inclined to advocate the settlement desired by
Turkey, the latter are inclined to take up a less friendly standpoint in the matter. He
denies that an increase in Turkey's strength in the
Persian Gulf
The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran.
regions would
endanger British political interests, and goes out of his way to point out the " obvious
error " in thinking that Turkey is likely to have any designs on India.
I have, &c.
GERARD LOWTHEli
Enciosure in No. 1.
Extract f rom the " Tanin " of March 28, 1911.
T he " Times " A rticle.
(Translation.)
IN passing judgment on statements in the "Times," one must always remember
that that newspaper holds political views opposed to those of the British Cabinet. The
" Times " supports the Conservative leaders, such as Lord Curzon and Lord Lansdowne,
on the Bagdad Railway question, and blames the Liberal Government for not acting
with sufficient firmness and severity. What angers the " Times" most is that criticism
should be directed against the rejection of the proposal made to England in 1903.
At that time the Conservatives were in office. The Germans invited British
capitalists to take part in the Bagdad Railway construction; but the proposal was
rejected by the Conservative party, on the ground that the line would be opposed to
British interests. In this there was also the idea that the Germans would be unable to
accomplish the task unaided.
Lord Morley's statement that the apprehensions of 1903 were unjustified moves
the " Times," the Conservative organ, to reply, and to defend the Conservative
statesmen. Our object in giving this explanation is to prevent the views of the
" Times " from being accepted as the point of view of the whole of England.
In a recent article the "Times" said that the British Government was to blame
for not preventing the encroachment made by Ottoman troops on part of Koweit
territory and urged the Cabinet actually to interfere in case of need. The difference
between the "Times'" violent language and Sir E. Grey's refusal to accept the
expression " right of protection over Koweit" will doubtless not escape the attention
of Ottoman public opinion. . „ .
It is clear that no change has taken place in the (Conservative point of view since
1903 ; it is clear that the Bagdad Railway is still regarded by them with an eye of
displeasure. The " Times" says so openly ; it argues that this railway is a source of
danger to England and that it offers her no advantage.
In our opinion the Bagdad-Bussorah line can never constitute a danger to
Eno-land. Since—as the " Times " admits—she has no intention of seizing territory in
the^
Persian Gulf
The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran.
or Irak, an increase in the strength of Turkey in those regions can
never endanger British political interests. We are convinced that they themselves do
not seriously believe that an increase in Turkey's strength in the
Persian Gulf
The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran.
would
constitute a menace to India. To think it likely that we have designs on India an to
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The volume contains correspondence, memorandums, and newspaper cuttings relating to a proposed Baghdad to Basra railway, an extension of the German Berlin to Baghdad Railway. Much of the correspondence has been forwarded to the Residency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, established in the provinces and regions considered part of, or under the influence of, British India. by the Foreign Department of the Government of India and is between Edward Grey, Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Francis Bertie, British Ambassador to France, Louis Mallet, Assistant Under-secretary of State for Near and Middle Eastern Affairs, Charles Marling, British Ambassador to Persia, Arthur Nicolson, Permanent Under-Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Henry Babington Smith, President of the National Bank of Turkey, Gerard Lowther, British Ambassador to Constantinople, Rifaat Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , Turkish Minister for Foreign Affairs, Edgar Speyer, railway financier, George Buchanan, British Ambassador to Russia, Edward Goschen, British Ambassador to Berlin, Henry Cumberbatch, British Consul General in Turkey, George Barclay, British Minister to Persia, the Board of Trade, and William Graham Greene, Permanent Secretary to the Board of Admiralty. There is also correspondence between Percy Cox, Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. at Bushire, Rear-Admiral Edmond Slade, Stuart Knox, Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. at Bahrain, and William Shakespear, Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. at Kuwait.
The volume covers the discussions prior to formal negotiations between Britain and the Ottoman Turks brought about by the Baghdad Railway and its proposed extension to the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. . The issues and subjects involved are:
- the proposed route of the railway;
- control and ownership of the section between Baghdad and Basra;
- location of the terminus, and who will control it, including Slade's report (ff. 64-74) on the suitability of Basra;
- a proposed increase to customs duty in the region;
- irrigation of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers;
- the contract to transport rail materials by the rivers;
- the status of Kuwait, particularly regarding Turkish and British suzerainty and influence.
Throughout the volume there are newspaper cuttings from English periodicals that relate to the Baghdad Railway and negotiations around it.
Folio 47 is a rough sketch map of the peninsula Ras Tanurah. Folio 230 is a fold-out map of the proposed route of the railway and irrigation of the rivers.
- Extent and format
- 2 volumes (334 folios)
- Arrangement
The volume is arranged chronologically. At the beginning (folios 2-5) is a subject index. It is in no particular order and organised under a few broad headings. The numbers refer to folio numbers of the secondary, earlier sequence.
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Foliation: The file consists of two volumes (parts one and two) and the foliation runs through both. The main foliation sequence commences at the title page of part one and terminates at the fifth folio from the back of part two; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and can be predominantly found in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A second foliation sequence runs between ff. 8-291A; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled, and can be found in the same position as the main sequence. There are the following irregularities: 7 and 7A; 13 and 13A; 15 and 15A; 16, 16A and 16B; 17 and 17A; 18, 18A and 18B; 20, 20A and 20B; 21, 21A and 21B; 52, 52A, 52B, 52C; 53, 53A, 53B and 53C; 54, 54A, 54B and 54C; 55, 55A and 55B; 56, 56A and 56B; 57 and 57A; 290 and 290A.
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- front, back, spine, edge, head, tail, front-i, i-r:iii-v, 1r:6v, 7ar:7av, 7r:12v, 13av, 14v, 15v, 17av, 17r, 19r:19v, 22r:37r, 38r:46v, 48r:50v, 58r:74v, 75v:84v, 87v:93v, 94v:96r, 97r:147v, iv-r:vi-v, back-i, front-a, back-a, spine-a, edge-a, head-a, tail-a, front-a-i, vii-r:ix-v, 148r:229v, 231r:289v, 291v:294v, x-r:xiii-v, back-a-i
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