'File 73/7 I (D 19) Status of Kuwait & Baghdad Railway, and Anglo-Turkish negotiations 1911' [155r] (343/631)
The record is made up of 2 volumes (334 folios). It was created in 28 Jan 1911-19 Jan 1912. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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[This Document is the Property of His Britannic Majesty s Goverumeni]
EASTERN DEPARTMENT. [March 17.]
SECRET SERIES. S ectiok 1
1,9732 ! No. I
Sir G. Lowther to Sir Edward Grey.—(Received March 17.)
(No. 156.)
Sir, Constantinople, March 10, 1911.
I ilAVE the honour to transmit herewith the translation of a speech delivered
on the 5th instant in reply to the criticisms of Ismail Kemal Bey by the Grand Vizier
on the subject of the liabilities of the Ottoman Government towards the Bagdad
Railway Company.
ion will observe that his Highness stated that, apart from the convention, i.e., of
1903, the company had a claim upon the excess revenues of the customs under the
firman
A Persian word meaning a royal order or decree issued by a sovereign, used notably in the Ottoman Empire (sometimes written ‘phirmaund’).
granting the concession, but that when the 3 per cent, increase was obtained,
the company abandoned that claim. Now, when there was a question of obtaining an
increase of 4 per cent, the same question presented itself.
Before transmitting to you the text of the speech, 1 thought it well to inquire of
his Highness whether he had been properly reported, and invited him to inform me
which was the
firman
A Persian word meaning a royal order or decree issued by a sovereign, used notably in the Ottoman Empire (sometimes written ‘phirmaund’).
that granted these revenues as guarantees.
At first his Highness was disposed to say that he could not carry the complicated
details of the liabilities of the Ottoman Government in his head, but, after some
pressure ou my part, he stated that it was not a
firman
A Persian word meaning a royal order or decree issued by a sovereign, used notably in the Ottoman Empire (sometimes written ‘phirmaund’).
, but the convention of 1908 that
set aside as a guarantee the excess revenues of the debt. 1 said I could not accept
that interpretation, and then read him the article of the convention dealing with that
point, showing him that, if the two paragraphs were read together, it was clear that
these revenues were only set aside for the prolongation of the line as far as Halif.
His Highness declined to accept this view, and insisted strongly that the " prolongement
de la ligne de Bagdad meant the whole railway.
For convenience of reference, I insert here the paragraph referred to
" Convention additionnelle, faisant suite a la convention du 20 fevrier, 1318
(5 mars, 1903)
" Le Gouvernement Imperial a decide de prolonger la ligne de Bagdad depuis
Boulgourlou jusqu'a la localite dite Helif, situee aux abords de Mardine, et de construire
un embranchement de Tel-Habesch a Alep. La longueur de cette ligne et de
Teinbranchement est d'environ 840 kilom.
" L'excedent des revenus concedes a la Dette publique ayant ete afPecte au
prolongement de la ligne de Bagdad, la garantie pour ces 840 kilom. de ligne sera
payee sur les excedents des revenus concedes a la Dette publique a raison de 11,000 fr.
par kilometre, en conformite de I'article 35 de la Convention de Bagdad.
I was, however, quite unable to move his Highness on this point, although T
reminded him that last year (as reported in my despatch No 276, Secret, of the
3rd May) the point of view of the Ottoman Government was that they were only
bound by a moral and not a legal obligation to the continuation oi the line. Hakki
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
was quite unable to explain how, if he relied on the 1908 convention, it had, as
he stated in his speech, been necessary to obtain from the railway an abandonment of
their claim to the 3 per cent, surtax. The enigma may, however, be explained by the
enclosures m this embassy s despatch No. 48 of the Jth February, 190^. Imally, his
Highness said that the argument was not an important one, as there was no question
of the 4 per cent, surtax being required for the construction of the Halif-Bagdad
section. This, of course, is true, but only because Turkey is providing for ordinary
expenditure out of loans. .
I then explained to his Highness again at length that our consent to tne mciease
of the 4 per cent, was dependent not only on the abandonment of the claim of the
4 per cent, by the Bagdad Railway, but to a general settlement of the railway question,
which would not interfere with our existing rights in those regions, and, 1 added, that
to avoid any misunderstanding 1 would place our views again on paper for Kilaat lasha.
I have, &c.
GERARD LOWTHER.
[1932 r—l]
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The volume contains correspondence, memorandums, and newspaper cuttings relating to a proposed Baghdad to Basra railway, an extension of the German Berlin to Baghdad Railway. Much of the correspondence has been forwarded to the Residency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, established in the provinces and regions considered part of, or under the influence of, British India. by the Foreign Department of the Government of India and is between Edward Grey, Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Francis Bertie, British Ambassador to France, Louis Mallet, Assistant Under-secretary of State for Near and Middle Eastern Affairs, Charles Marling, British Ambassador to Persia, Arthur Nicolson, Permanent Under-Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Henry Babington Smith, President of the National Bank of Turkey, Gerard Lowther, British Ambassador to Constantinople, Rifaat Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , Turkish Minister for Foreign Affairs, Edgar Speyer, railway financier, George Buchanan, British Ambassador to Russia, Edward Goschen, British Ambassador to Berlin, Henry Cumberbatch, British Consul General in Turkey, George Barclay, British Minister to Persia, the Board of Trade, and William Graham Greene, Permanent Secretary to the Board of Admiralty. There is also correspondence between Percy Cox, Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. at Bushire, Rear-Admiral Edmond Slade, Stuart Knox, Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. at Bahrain, and William Shakespear, Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. at Kuwait.
The volume covers the discussions prior to formal negotiations between Britain and the Ottoman Turks brought about by the Baghdad Railway and its proposed extension to the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. . The issues and subjects involved are:
- the proposed route of the railway;
- control and ownership of the section between Baghdad and Basra;
- location of the terminus, and who will control it, including Slade's report (ff. 64-74) on the suitability of Basra;
- a proposed increase to customs duty in the region;
- irrigation of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers;
- the contract to transport rail materials by the rivers;
- the status of Kuwait, particularly regarding Turkish and British suzerainty and influence.
Throughout the volume there are newspaper cuttings from English periodicals that relate to the Baghdad Railway and negotiations around it.
Folio 47 is a rough sketch map of the peninsula Ras Tanurah. Folio 230 is a fold-out map of the proposed route of the railway and irrigation of the rivers.
- Extent and format
- 2 volumes (334 folios)
- Arrangement
The volume is arranged chronologically. At the beginning (folios 2-5) is a subject index. It is in no particular order and organised under a few broad headings. The numbers refer to folio numbers of the secondary, earlier sequence.
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Foliation: The file consists of two volumes (parts one and two) and the foliation runs through both. The main foliation sequence commences at the title page of part one and terminates at the fifth folio from the back of part two; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and can be predominantly found in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A second foliation sequence runs between ff. 8-291A; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled, and can be found in the same position as the main sequence. There are the following irregularities: 7 and 7A; 13 and 13A; 15 and 15A; 16, 16A and 16B; 17 and 17A; 18, 18A and 18B; 20, 20A and 20B; 21, 21A and 21B; 52, 52A, 52B, 52C; 53, 53A, 53B and 53C; 54, 54A, 54B and 54C; 55, 55A and 55B; 56, 56A and 56B; 57 and 57A; 290 and 290A.
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- front, back, spine, edge, head, tail, front-i, i-r:iii-v, 1r:6v, 7ar:7av, 7r:12v, 13av, 14v, 15v, 17av, 17r, 19r:19v, 22r:37r, 38r:46v, 48r:50v, 58r:74v, 75v:84v, 87v:93v, 94v:96r, 97r:147v, iv-r:vi-v, back-i, front-a, back-a, spine-a, edge-a, head-a, tail-a, front-a-i, vii-r:ix-v, 148r:229v, 231r:289v, 291v:294v, x-r:xiii-v, back-a-i
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